This is a discussion on OC for the first time within the Open Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; I'll go against the grain and say that unless your occupation is LE or you are an actor in a cowboy movie, there is no ...
I'll go against the grain and say that unless your occupation is LE or you are an actor in a cowboy movie, there is no need to OC. The element of surprise and unknown is why CC is preferred. Additionally, there are those who have had their weapons taken and used against them-----if this can happen to a uniformed and trained LEO, it can definitely happen to you.
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Disagree with "Element of surprise" It is a tactical OFFENSIVE tool, not a defensive one. If you are using the element of surprise to defend yourself you have already been assaulted by someone that has used the element of surprise on you. You are already down one point.
Congrats I wish I had the guts to do the OC thing here in my small town in S.E. Wisconsin. I DON'T HAVE THE JEWELS.
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I've been CCing for years. Never OC'd until recently. Not sure why I did it. Mostly out of curiosity I think. I can make, defend or argue most points regarding OC, but I gotta say, I like it. Especially in the winter. I'm a pretty thin guy and if I CC, my firearm is usually concealed under a shirt, under another shirt, under a sweater, under a coat. Lots of layers to get through. I've been wearing a jacket that has zippers on sides to accommodate a firearm and/or duty belt and it works perfectly. Black gun, black holster, against a black coat, no one even notices. In fact, In south eastern PA, i've never seen someone OCing that wasn't a police officer. I've only had 2 comments. One was a curious citizen, the other a rather up-tight retail customer who didn't understand why I needed to carry a gun.
Either way, I like it. And I look forward to times when I can open carry.
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Good evidence that not all gun enthusiasts vote for the same party.
I do it once in a while, never felt out of place or weird - but I didn't go out of my way to open carry either - just something I do on occasion. I like, and appreciate having the choice. Too many people are against open carry just because they choose not to do so, not everyone does it for attention. I don't like wearing my gun inside my pants, so my holster of choice is a high riding belt model. The only difference in carry for me is whether or not I decide to tuck in my shirt, unlike some people I don't dress around my gun every day, I dress how I'm going to dress. There are OCCASIONS that I'll dress for and change how I carry, but my normal day to day life does not dictate how I carry.
I'm also a believer that your location is in almost direct relation with how you feel about open carry.
I also think that some people who carry concealed look like absolute slobs, wearing pants that are 2 sizes to big and hawaiian shirts one size too large just to cover their carry gun. I'm glad I don't live where you do to the point I feel I have to look like a clown to carry, now that's attention I wouldn't care for.
But to each their own... I'm a firm believer that we need to quit fighting over how we carry and accept all safe methods, if we can't do it, how can we expect anti gun people to?
Lastly, I always try and present myself in a positive non-threatening manner, open doors for people, say please and thank you and do my best to be a gentleman, how I carry does not change this, but I think it is even more important when open carrying to be the good guy in your actions, I believe it goes a long way.
BTW, I do much the same thing, generally, carrying or not. Simple courtesies and showing humanity with those around us. It does go a long way. And when carrying, it helps provide supporting evidence that we're not all drooling rabid gun-toters. Every little bit helps.
Very well put, Thunder.
I OC, partially, to WM. I have my jacket on, but the barrel of the gun & holster stick out just below the elastic of the jacket.
I do my shopping at 3:30 am to avoid the crowds. Some of the folks that I see at WM at 3:30 in the morning.............well, you sort of wonder about?:)
had an incident at the local grocery store yesterday. girlfriend asked me to pick a few things on the way to her house. went into winn dixie and was reaching for the top shelf with my left hand and my weapon was slightly exposed. a older woman noticed and politely and very quietly asked if that thing was what i think it was. i told her it was kinda hard to cover up when it was exposed. i figured she would go batshit by the look on her face but re assured her i wasnt a nut. she just smiled and said she never leaves home with her S&W .30 snub. kinda had a chuckle that a late 50 to 60 yr old woman was packing in her purse.
I have yet to have a negative experience OCing, and I'm pretty new still to carrying in general.
I have to agree with the rest, I was -far- more aware of my OCing than anyone else was :P I have a long post I made somewhere else in this subforum about it, but suffice to say it my own paranoia with it the first times far outweighed anyone elses...because they didn't really notice.