This is a discussion on What do you guys think about this video? within the Open Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Based on several of the comments it appears, in my opinion, we have members that are LEO's and agree that they have the right to ...
Based on several of the comments it appears, in my opinion, we have members that are LEO's and agree that they have the right to not follow the law and violate a persons rights. The DOJ has stated on numerous occasions that it is illeagal to demand ID unless a person has violated a law, and is being charged. Case in point, the undocumented illegals presently in our country.
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If the video taper was that much of a danger to LEO, he should have arrested him on the spot. Instead, he chose to go about his business, follow the taper and then later confront him. Any danger that was presented was past and done.
And also like it or not, you are condoning rights restrictions. So, I will lump you into that crowd. If you're so offended, then think why you're offended-- probably because I struck a nerve.
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He was interfering with the business at hand. With an armed citizen pestering him while trying to talk to the person he stopped originally he was obstructing an investigation, immaterial whether he was armed or not. Him being openly armed certainly presented a risk to the officer. Of course not any more of a risk than if he was carrying concealed but the cop knew he was armed. I'd be awfully careful about turning my back to continue with the original investigation.
In a nutshell - the guy was an idiot, legal or not.
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When LEO asked him to leave, he did. Please show me the statute he broke.
So, by what you are saying, I legally can not be anywhere near a cop when he is pulling someone over or doing any routine stop. Not even on the curb looking on.
The guy may be an idiot, but many of the police in Santa Fe and Albuquerque do not know the laws about open carry. A friend's 21 y/o son was open carrying on a motorcycle in Albuquerque, and was arrested and his motorcycle and gun impounded. They got all charges dropped and everything back, with the help of a detective, with damage to the motorcycle by the towing company, and of course no compensation. Furthermore, I think it's essential that citizens be allowed to film police, for purposes of accountability.
But yeah, bad move by that guy in general.
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