Texas Open Carry

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    Texas Open Carry

    Texas HB 56 is back on the table for OPEN CARRY. Please anyone in Texas take a few second to write an email to your senator or State Rep strongly urging them to pass this bill. Yes you will still have to have a CHL license to open carry, but this is a big step in the right direction!

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    Glad to see this come back up for Texans. I hope it passes through the citizens there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Texaszed4mc View Post
    Texas HB 56 is back on the table for OPEN CARRY. Please anyone in Texas take a few second to write an email to your senator or State Rep strongly urging them to pass this bill. Yes you will still have to have a CHL license to open carry, but this is a big step in the right direction!
    It is more important to contact governor Perry. Texas legislature is on special session, and no bill can be voted on unless the governor puts it in the agenda.

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    Good luck Texas!
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    ...phone numbers and how it works info here:

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    Good luck guys. I always thought it was ironic that Texas is a no-open-carry state.
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    Quote Originally Posted by A1Fiddler View Post
    Good luck guys. I always thought it was ironic that Texas is a no-open-carry state.
    Same here. Until about a year ago, I always thought it was an open carry state.

    Good luck Texans!

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    Not on the agenda for the special session, there are MUCH bigger fish to fry in that limited time. Next legislative session is 2015, they'll take that it up then if someone files it. There have been permutations of this bill filed in at least the past 3 legislatures and none have gotten far, I have no doubt Perry would sign it (he will sign anything that he thinks will score political points) but the vast majority of Texans either are against it or simply don't care.

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    Why the heck would somebody OC if they have a ccw in Tx? Sounds like a great reason for Leo to pull a "nice glock, now lets see your Id and chl. I'll need to pat you down and check your pockets for my safety of course. That better not be a 3.6" lockable pocket knife or you're going to jail sir..."

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    Quote Originally Posted by 91wm6 View Post
    Why the heck would somebody OC if they have a ccw in Tx? Sounds like a great reason for Leo to pull a "nice glock, now lets see your Id and chl. I'll need to pat you down and check your pockets for my safety of course. That better not be a 3.6" lockable pocket knife or you're going to jail sir..."
    To freely exercise your 2nd amendment rights.

    Actually if it was legal to do so, OCing would not be a "great reason" for a LEO to detain you, request ID and conduct a search of your person. It would actually be a huge violation of your rights and the LEO could be risking his/her job if he/she does in fact violate your rights.

    If OC was legal in Texas the act of OCing wouldn't, in and of itself, give the LEO probable cause to detain you and request ID.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1MoreGoodGuy View Post
    To freely exercise your 2nd amendment rights.

    Actually if it was legal to do so, OCing would not be a "great reason" for a LEO to detain you, request ID and conduct a search of your person. It would actually be a huge violation of your rights and the LEO could be risking his/her job if he/she does in fact violate your rights.

    If OC was legal in Texas the act of OCing wouldn't, in and of itself, give the LEO probable cause to detain you and request ID.
    You're missing the issue or I didn't explain it very well. I'm all for constitutional open carry in Tx. I think the new legislation is ridiculous. By making a chl necessary for OC, it gives officers a reason to stop and verify citizens are eligible to carry... It shouldn't be legal but Leo's will do it. There are dozens of examples of this on YouTube in open carry legal states. To expect otherwise in this political climate is a bit naive...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 91wm6 View Post
    You're missing the issue or I didn't explain it very well. I'm all for constitutional open carry in Tx. I think the new legislation is ridiculous. By making a chl necessary for OC, it gives officers a reason to stop and verify citizens are eligible to carry... It shouldn't be legal but Leo's will do it. There are dozens of examples of this on YouTube in open carry legal states. To expect otherwise in this political climate is a bit naive...
    Not to mention that in some jurisdictions there will be people arrested for disorderly conduct for OCing (has happened several times recently), kiss your CHL goodbye if that happens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 91wm6 View Post
    You're missing the issue or I didn't explain it very well. I'm all for constitutional open carry in Tx. I think the new legislation is ridiculous. By making a chl necessary for OC, it gives officers a reason to stop and verify citizens are eligible to carry... It shouldn't be legal but Leo's will do it. There are dozens of examples of this on YouTube in open carry legal states. To expect otherwise in this political climate is a bit naive...
    ...he's not missing the issue at all...it does NOT give LEOs a reason to stop and verify...the courts have held that simply OC where OC is legal is NOT legal grounds for a Terry stop...we don't live by youtube here...this is Texas where MOST of our LEOs are very well informed and professional...and a 3.6" lockable blade is perfectly legal...except in San Antonio...

    "...in this political climate" doesn't work in Texas...except for those who are "a bit nave"...most of us know our rights and demand them quite loudly...most of us just live within the law and don't fear what "might happen"...
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    "...has happened several times recently"...could you cite three? or even two?

    ...a person only "kisses his CHL goodbye" upon conviction...so if not found guilty...the sky's not falling there, either...

    ...file these under "dire predictions"...
    Quote Originally Posted by MJB_17 View Post
    Not to mention that in some jurisdictions there will be people arrested for disorderly conduct for OCing (has happened several times recently), kiss your CHL goodbye if that happens.

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    ...from the explanation cited above: "However, the Governor may add to the call whatever subjects he wishes, without limit, at any time during the session." (so it's a bit early to dismiss the possibility...those who are for OC still have options to pursue...as explained in the cited piece...)

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    Not on the agenda for the special session, there are MUCH bigger fish to fry in that limited time. Next legislative session is 2015, they'll take that it up then if someone files it. There have been permutations of this bill filed in at least the past 3 legislatures and none have gotten far, I have no doubt Perry would sign it (he will sign anything that he thinks will score political points) but the vast majority of Texans either are against it or simply don't care.

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