Chipotle style open carry event.

Chipotle style open carry event.

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    Chipotle style open carry event.

    Please vote yes if you think they help gun owners or no if you think the hurt gun owners.
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    This topic is being beaten to death in a few other threads, but just to clarify my "no" - I firmly believe in the right to OC and I believe that certain types of public events can raise awareness of our cause. With this said, what happened in TX was an intentionally provocative event that turned off a lot of moderate gun supporters. That is no way to win opinions or support. Those two were idiots and ended up hurting other gun owners.

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    NO!!!

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    Open carry a pistol- Yes

    Open carry a long gun- you'd better be actively hunting or in a war zone
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    It does nothing to help anyone. Look at the people doing this type of thing. Typically 20 something males. More testosterone than sense and their fathers need to call their sons, schedule a visit, and smack the crap out of them for being morons. That is what my dad did all through my childhood, which is why I didn't do stupid things like that.
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    NO! They hurt way, way more than they help. I'm all for open carry but do not abuse this right and that is what these two idiots did.
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    If your open carry event results in thousands more "Gun-Free Zones", you are doing it wrong!
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    opencarrydoofus.jpg

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    I can jump off a cliff if I so desire, but I don't. Yes I can OC a long arm in Texas, but I don't. That is no way to gain friends or influence people.

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    It appears those on this forum who oppose such demonstrations outnumber those who favor them by about fifteen to one. That alone makes me wonder how we managed to take the topic up to nearly five hundred posts on another thread.
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    Yes, can work just fine.

    But it can (obviously) be detrimental if either (1) acting like a goof, (2) acting less than professional and normal about being there, and/or (3) someone gets truly bent about seeing any such thing. The first two we can control. The last one is up to the gods and the comparative sanity of the people who happen to be there at the time of the gathering.

    That said, do I believe that coming for photo ops and acting flamboyantly to a shop with customers is the best way to garner support for the concept? No. Do I know exactly how these visitors to the Chipotle restaurant behaved over the course of the entire encounter? No, am simply going on what's been reported in a couple of new articles. Who knows how complete or accurate either of those has been.


    I've been to several meet-ups at restaurants, parks and other publicly-accessible places. Have not yet encountered true vehemence, nor has the group been asked to leave, nor has anyone apparently gotten truly bent at the venue. But then, each and every meet-up I've joined hasn't looked so very different from any other group at the spot at the time, with the sole exception of being visibly armed. Not a lot different than going not-visibly armed, really. The only difference is: people's perceptions prejudices, and the degree to which they have a handle on things. Of course, all of this gets tossed into the wind, in the case of someone blowing the situation by acting like a goof, showing off, forcing a situation, not acting in a fairly discreet or upstanding manner. Carry needn't be the killer, in a situation. Just needs to be done with some accommodation of the reality others will bring while they're there.


    BTW, I've open carried to quite a number of spots while with others who were also open carrying. Including to an Appleby's restaurant, a couple of large pizza joints, a handful of coffee shops (including Starbuck's), a few city parks in metro areas, to the state capitol grounds and steps, to rallies at public (city/county owned) venues, and probably a handful of others I can't recall. Never a problem. Quite often, many questions were asked by others who saw the group and wondered what was up. Never a MWAG call. On a couple occasions with gatherings outdoors, a couple of police were discreetly keeping a watch on the area to ensure it was going to plan. Never had an interruption or heavy handling by LE in any such gathering. This, in two different states' worth of venues across many years.
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    For me... Concealed means concealed....

    I think the OC of long guns tends to get us put into a poor light. Unfortunately, there is a large populace of folks that think they are trying to help us but tend to be that loud guy in the room that everyone wishes would confine his conversation to himself.

    I know the anti folks tend to be allowed to protest like idiots with no resistance and when we protest, someone ends up in cuffs. If we were not armed and protesting we would be less likely to have issue, but that, wrong or right, is the way things are at this point in time.

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    Around here we refer to it as playing chess vs checkers... it's a long term strategy, one wrong move can throw you back a long way, which is what these folks are doing.

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    I voted no but that does not mean I am against open carry. There are times when it is appropriate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smolck View Post
    It does nothing to help anyone. Look at the people doing this type of thing. Typically 20 something males. More testosterone than sense and their fathers need to call their sons, schedule a visit, and smack the crap out of them for being morons. That is what my dad did all through my childhood, which is why I didn't do stupid things like that.
    As Mister Smolck so eloquently stated both of these idiots need a trip behind the woodshed and have some sense spanked into them or knocked into them. When I was too old and spankings weren't having the desired effect my folks gave me yardwork to do. To this day (I'm 61)
    I pretty much HATE yardwork unless I'm getting paid for it. TBT actually I enjoy some aspects of tree and brush work. After running the Stihl and loading brush or splitting wood (with a 40T power splitter) I'm pretty well done in but I usually feel good for the accomplishment of a job well done.


    The large guy with the AR needs a lesson or several lessons in how to dress like a man. The other one with the AK needs to chuck the kid glasses and have his mom or dad buy him some decent clothes like one would wear to a job interview or church. JOMO.

    Mister LARGE needs to drop a hundred pounds or so as well. Mister Short IMHO is a lost cause.

    I am all for OC of handguns in a proper holster. Unless you're hunting or in a combat zone leave the rifles in the safe.
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