First time Out of state OC. Odd Indiana restriction.

First time Out of state OC. Odd Indiana restriction.

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    First time Out of state OC. Odd Indiana restriction.

    When I began research for getting my CC permit last year, I paid close attention to the laws of Indiana and Ohio as I find myself there from time to time. Back then all I was concerned about was CC, had no intention of going OC at all. After almost a year, I find myself OC'ing a good bit on the weekends. Today, Mrs. Thin and I headed out to run errands, including a last stop at a big box home improvement store. Prior to that we were at her parents, and it was easier for us to run up the road and across the river instead of heading back down to Louisville. We walk into the store, and I realize I'm OC. Thinking "Crap! Is this legal?!" I thought I was good, but I high tailed it to the mens room just to double check on my smartphone. I could untuck my shirt if needed. After a quick check on Handgunlaw.us, I was good to go. No issues while shopping.

    Something I did notice while I was searching Indiana law tonight was that while carry in state parks IS legal, carrying in the Falls of the Ohio State park IS NOT legal. For those that don't know, the Falls of the Ohio is a huge fossil bed on the North/Indiana side of the Ohio river near Louisville, KY. It's known that the KY state line goes to the northern bank of the river, which includes the fossil beds. KY accepts an IN permit for CC, and a permit isn't needed for OC. Any idea why this one park would be restricted? Was planning on taking a young cousin there in a couple of weeks, but now I'll have to reconsider.


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    I confused the states. Apologies. Ignore me. Gracias.
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    The park is part of the Falls of the Ohio National Wildlife Conservation Area, a federally protected area that includes the Falls of the Ohio State Park.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cjkent View Post
    The park is part of the Falls of the Ohio National Wildlife Conservation Area, a federally protected area that includes the Falls of the Ohio State Park.
    I didn't know that, but it all make sense now. From the research I've done when it comes to Federal land, the general rule appears to be " Good luck figuring out what the rule is for this park/conservation area/wildlife management area/forrest.". And even if they have a rule, they may acknowledge that they usually won't enforce it, except if they want to, but most of the time they don't, unless the ranger/officer that stopped you is having a bad day.

    http://www.handgunlaw.us/states/kentucky.pdf

    See page 4, Land Between The Lakes National Recreation Area.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ANGLICO View Post
    I confused the states. Apologies. Ignore me. Gracias.
    I wonder if that would be acceptable defense in court.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NECCdude View Post
    I wonder if that would be acceptable defense in court.
    I am still trying to figure out how this is an "odd Indiana restriction".
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    Quote Originally Posted by CIBMike View Post
    I am still trying to figure out how this is an "odd Indiana restriction".
    Thought it was odd that the state park that crosses into another, even more gun friendly state is the only one with a no gun restriction. Didn't know it was a federal issue at the time. It was like a local preemption that neither state allows by law. But the federal side over rules that.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ianthin View Post
    I didn't know that, but it all make sense now. From the research I've done when it comes to Federal land, the general rule appears to be " Good luck figuring out what the rule is for this park/conservation area/wildlife management area/forrest.". And even if they have a rule, they may acknowledge that they usually won't enforce it, except if they want to, but most of the time they don't, unless the ranger/officer that stopped you is having a bad day.

    http://www.handgunlaw.us/states/kentucky.pdf

    See page 4, Land Between The Lakes National Recreation Area
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    LBL is "on record" making it clear they WILL NOT bother legal CC license holders UNLESS they break other laws/rules/Regs (firing across roads, shooting in areas clearly not permitted etc. ) methinks they figure that is "wiser" than pushing Ky on the CDWL issue (IMO )

    Though I'd bet it has more to do with THIS issue (FOR LBL) more than Ky law

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