deterrence question

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    deterrence question

    first post here, Hi nice to meet everyone. Im moving to a state where open carry is lawful, but you may be arrested for "breach of peace" which is another topic. My question for you is if you for whatever reason found yourself carrying concealed do you think wearing a T shirt implying you are carrying is a good deterent? I look forward to learning alot here thanks!!
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    Welcome to the forum.

    No, if I'm carrying concealed, unless I'm at the range, I don't wear anything that implies I'm carrying. IMO the best deterrent is situational awareness. If you don't look like an easy target, likely you won't be chosen as one.

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    Hello and welcome aboard, I'm with Norm on this one, concealed means concealed and wearing something telling everyone your carrying defeats the purpose. Heck with the way some of the states are acting if someone saw the shirt and phoned the police you'd probably still get arrested.
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    Yeah dont advertise your carrying that would be a very very bad idea ....

    Keep it covered
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    Quote Originally Posted by 9mill View Post
    first post here, Hi nice to meet everyone. Im moving to a state where open carry is lawful, but you may be arrested for "breach of peace" which is another topic. My question for you is if you for whatever reason found yourself carrying concealed do you think wearing a T shirt implying you are carrying is a good deterent? I look forward to learning alot here thanks!!
    My opinion is wearing a tee shirt, bumper stickers, door signs is detrimental to your primary mission to be left alone and stay alive. Contrary to popular belief, criminals for the most part are not cowards, lazy, or stupid. Some are actually quite professional. If a criminal for what ever reason wants something you have... they will try and take it. While some criminals are spontanious, even they devote some planning to their act. You wearing a shirt indicating that your armed will more likely serve as intelligence to the criminal and he can take that fact into consideration when making his plans. He may decide that possibly being shot dont make it worth it. Or IMO he's more likely to strike from a mo-better ambush, and incapacitate the victim without a threat first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norm66 View Post
    Welcome to the forum.

    If you don't look like an easy target, likely you won't be chosen as one.
    what if you are an easy victim, would a stealy glare from an elderly feeble man deter an assailant?
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    I would probably pick one method of carry or the other.

    Are you sure about the law? It sounds a bit shady. Some LEOs here in PA think they can arrest you for brandishing, but we have no brandishing laws here.
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    How does wearing a t-shirt imply you are carrying? I've worn t-shirts (undershirts) my entire adult life, most of which was before I started carrying. Do you think everyone who wears a t-shirt is CC? I'm not getting the connection between the two.

    Welcome to the forum.

    Edit: I also CC IWB wearing a button up shirt without wearing a t-shirt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spclopr8tr View Post
    How does wearing a t-shirt imply you are carrying? I've worn t-shirts (undershirts) my entire adult life, most of which was before I started carrying. Do you think everyone who wears a t-shirt is CC? I'm not getting the connection between the two.

    Welcome to the forum.

    Edit: I also CC IWB wearing a button up shirt without wearing a t-shirt.
    you can have a shirt that might say something like Smith & Wesson don't leave home without it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Badey View Post
    Welcome from PA!

    I would probably pick one method of carry or the other.

    Are you sure about the law? It sounds a bit shady. Some LEOs here in PA think they can arrest you for brandishing, but we have no brandishing laws here.
    well shady is a very nice way to put it, from what I have read, yes they make the arrest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 9mill View Post
    you can have a shirt that might say something like Smith & Wesson don't leave home without it
    Ah, check. If I am CC, I do not want to advertise it. For the same reason I don't wear tactical gear or clothing. If I am ever in a situation where a BG is trying to decide who in the area is armed, I don't want to look like a mall ninja. Likewise I don't wear my NRA ball cap or any other visible signs I might be carrying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 9mill View Post
    what if you are an easy victum, would a stealy glare from an elderly feeble man deter an assailant?
    Works for me....

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    I am on the stay off the radar plan, no advertisement, no shirts, no signs, no bumper stickers, always carry never tell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Secret Spuk View Post
    My opinion is wearing a tee shirt, bumper stickers, door signs is detrimental to your primary mission to be left alone and stay alive. Contrary to popular belief, criminals for the most part are not cowards, lazy, or stupid. Some are actually quite professional. If a criminal for what ever reason wants something you have... they will try and take it. While some criminals are spontanious, even they devote some planning to their act. You wearing a shirt indicating that your armed will more likely serve as intelligence to the criminal and he can take that fact into consideration when making his plans. He may decide that possibly being shot dont make it worth it. Or IMO he's more likely to strike from a mo-better ambush, and incapacitate the victim without a threat first.
    I appreciate your post, I still don't understand how NO deterrent will enhance my primary mission of being left alone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 9mill View Post
    what if you are an easy victum, would a stealy glare from an elderly feeble man deter an assailant?
    Just letting them know you're watching can often be a deterrent. But if not, that's what the gun is for. Still best not to advertise. If it's deterrent you're after so badly that you want to advertise your CCW, why not just open carry?

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