Open Carry in Colorado

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anubis View Post
    If there were a definition constructed in a court case, that would be a legal definition.



    Sounds logical, if you can cite such a case which transpired in CO, preferably after the "shall-issue" legislation in 2003.
    I first heard this in my CCW class when one of the students asked the instructor (who was a municipal police sergeant). Some time later, I saw it in print. I'm now in the process of trying to find it again. When I find it, I'll let you (and everyone else) know.
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    Definition Of "Concealed" In Colorado

    Quote Originally Posted by Anubis View Post
    If there were a definition constructed in a court case, that would be a legal definition.



    Sounds logical, if you can cite such a case which transpired in CO, preferably after the "shall-issue" legislation in 2003.
    Eureka!

    Question of whether weapon is concealed is question of fact for the jury which should not be summarily determined by the trial judge at the time that he rules on the defendant's motion to suppress. People v. Vincent, 628 P.2d 107 (Colo. 1981).

    Can be found in CRS in the annotations immediately following

    18-12-105. Unlawfully carrying a concealed weapon - unlawful possession of weapons.

    Click on :Legal Resources

    Select: Colorado Revised Statutes as the publication

    Enter: 18.12.105 in the search box

    Scroll down to the annotations.
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    And still incredibly vague.

    They should change the word Jury to sheep.

    With a permit OC or CC you should be good to go state wide barring the State listed NO zones.

    I agree, not worth the hassle of constant introductions to LEO's and terra firma pending identification verification.

    Having said that, now that winter is here, I will be carrying OWB more often, so occasional slips are going to happen.
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    Thanks for the citation. So still no definition, each such jury would decide what "concealed" meant to them. As Sticks wrote, those of us with a CCW permit recognized in CO would be OK either way (outside of Denver, of course). If I were OCing without a permit, I would avoid using an IWB just like I would avoid covering the pistol with a coat, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anubis View Post
    ...I would avoid using an IWB...
    Now, as some of us know, in VA, if you go into a restaurant which serves alcohol, you must be OCing and not w/an IWB holster.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KenInColo View Post
    Now, as some of us know, in VA, if you go into a restaurant which serves alcohol, you must be OCing and not w/an IWB holster.
    Says who?


    That's news to me...

    And most of the people that posted here: http://www.defensivecarry.com/vbulle...ow-w-poll.html

    The "VA Tuck" is a totally viable option.

    I've never heard of or found a case of anyone being detained, charged, etc. for the IWB holster with a tucked shirt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anubis View Post
    Thanks for the citation. So still no definition, each such jury would decide what "concealed" meant to them. As Sticks wrote, those of us with a CCW permit recognized in CO would be OK either way (outside of Denver, of course). If I were OCing without a permit, I would avoid using an IWB just like I would avoid covering the pistol with a coat, etc.

    The instructor at the safety class I just took says that if you have your CC permit in CO, then you can OC in Denver. Hmmm....I'd have to research that before attempting. Not that I would want to open that box anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ropedartman View Post
    The instructor at the safety class I just took says that if you have your CC permit in CO, then you can OC in Denver.
    My research indicates that OC in Denver is illegal whether one has a CCW permit.

    Read the decision by District Court Judge Meyer, which established this fact, later upheld by the Colorado State Supreme Court, and see if you don't agree.

    First go here FAQ Colorado Firearms Laws

    Then click on the link labeled "2004 Meyers decision". (direct link to that page doesn't work)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anubis View Post
    My research indicates that OC in Denver is illegal whether one has a CCW permit.
    +1

    CC Permit is irrelevant from what I've seen/read/heard.

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    Sounded strange, not going to attempt to OC in Denver anyway. But I was hoping the instructor would be better informed.

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    You may even get the "man with gun" call in Parker and Castle Rock because of all the CA transplants. It is certainly legal but you will be questioned by the PD.

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    I live in Adams county up in thornton and have never seen any one open carry...has any one ever hade any problems here in thornton????
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    I dont believe that I have seen any open carry in Grand junction, except by uniformed officers and people at the range.
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    Info is available here: RMGO - Home

    It may be more stuff than you have or not.

    This is Colorado's pro gun lobby organization.

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    For those not inclined to click through looking:

    FAQ Colorado Firearms Laws

    From the site:

    Where can I Open Carry? Everywhere except where specifically prohibited.

    Basically, if it is not prohibited, it is allowed. Be very sure of where you can and cannot, as open carry can attract a great deal of attention. You do not want to unintentionally have that attention drawn to you when you are mistakenly in a prohibited area.

    Where can I not Open Carry? Several places. These fit into four main categories: Prohibited by Law Areas, Prohibiting Municipalities, Prohibiting Private Businesses and Prohibiting Private Residences.

    Erik's note: Good luck sorting out the patchwork of prohibited areas.
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