Congrats To Dan Moore / Big Win for Virginia Gun Owners! [MERGED]

Congrats To Dan Moore / Big Win for Virginia Gun Owners! [MERGED]

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    Congrats To Dan Moore / Big Win for Virginia Gun Owners! [MERGED]

    he won his case in virginia, and was infact arrested illegally for carrying in a public building



    wonder how much his 1983 suit will be worth, they already paid him 10k hush money for his 1st harassment incident from norfolk PD
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    Subject: VA-ALERT: Norfolk LOSES to Danladi Moore, again!

    Date: 2/10/2009 300 P.M. Eastern Standard Time

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    VCDL's meeting schedule: Virginia Citizens Defense League, Inc. (VCDL)
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    Abbreviations used in VA-ALERT: VCDL - Commonly Used Abbreviations
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    Big Win for Gun Owners! 2/10/09

    I just got the word - Danladi Moore, who was arrested for trespass by
    a Norfolk police officer last August while Danladi was lawfully open
    carrying at Norfolk's Waterside Mall, has just won his case in court!

    The judge told the Norfolk City Attorney that because of the City's
    financial interest in the mall, the mall is considered PUBLIC property
    and Danladi was therefore NOT trespassing. All charges are to be
    dropped.

    Well, well - another most deserved lesson to City Attorney Bernard
    Pishko on not harassing law-abiding gun owners.

    Pishko was hell-bent on prosecuting Danladi Moore to teach him a
    lesson because Danladi had challenged Norfolk's authority in a
    previous harassment case and won a $10,000 settlement.

    Hopefully Dan can now sue the pants off Norfolk AGAIN!

    I wonder how much this latest blunder is going to cost Norfolk?
    Perhaps another zero on the end of the previous settlement?

    Go get 'em, Danladi! ;-)

    We are attempting to get the transcript of the ruling as it could have
    much bigger implications for other such government-owned venues across
    the state.

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    VA-ALERT is a project of the Virginia Citizens Defense League, Inc.
    (VCDL). VCDL is an all-volunteer, non-partisan grassroots organization
    dedicated to defending the human rights of all Virginians. The Right to
    Keep and Bear Arms is a fundamental human right.

    VCDL web page: Virginia Citizens Defense League, Inc. (VCDL)
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    Pishko is a slow learner.

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    Whatdaya wanna bet that it happens again?
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    Good for Danladi Moore!!!

    I hope he rakes them over the coals and gets a ton of money! This is the only way that over zealous anti gun citis and City Attorneys learn anything!

    I can't wait to see the resulting lawsuit that Mr. Moore will win handily! Go Get 'em Mr. Moore!
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    Glad to hear it!!! It's about dang time that law-abiding citizens started putting their collective foot down against government infringements on our natural, human, civil, and constitutional rights.

    Way to go Danladi!!!

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    Mr Moore is a patriot! It seems as though he is the kind of activist we all should be. If there were more like him we'd be further along in the fight.
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    Great news. We ousted (well had to resign under extreme pressure) our Harris County DA about 6 months ago. The jerk basically told law enforcement to pick up anyone carrying without a permit even though Texas law was changed with the Castle Doctrine to allow unlicensed carry in your vehicle. I just hate it when a local DA disregards the law. Sure you get off, after spending time in jail, major bucks for an attorney, and loss of your weapon for a long time. The unethical bast*rd got what was coming to him. Even though I have a Texas CHL, my wife doesnt' and she is carrying anytime she drives my SUV by default. Should be interesting to see what our new DA is all about concerning 2nd ammendment issues.
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    Big Win for Virginia Gun Owners!



    VA-ALERT:
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    Big Win for Gun Owners! 2/10/09

    I just got the word - Danladi Moore, who was arrested for trespass by
    a Norfolk police officer last August while Danladi was lawfully open
    carrying at Norfolk's Waterside Mall, has just won his case in court!

    The judge told the Norfolk City Attorney that because of the City's
    financial interest in the mall, the mall is considered PUBLIC property
    and Danladi was therefore NOT trespassing. All charges are to be
    dropped.

    Well, well - another most deserved lesson to City Attorney Bernard
    Pishko on not harassing law-abiding gun owners.

    Pishko was hell-bent on prosecuting Danladi Moore to teach him a
    lesson because Danladi had challenged Norfolk's authority in a
    previous harassment case and won a $10,000 settlement.

    Hopefully Dan can now sue the pants off Norfolk AGAIN!

    I wonder how much this latest blunder is going to cost Norfolk?
    Perhaps another zero on the end of the previous settlement?

    Go get 'em, Danladi! ;-)

    We are attempting to get the transcript of the ruling as it could have
    much bigger implications for other such government-owned venues across the state.

    Background:

    For those not aware of the background Danladi Moore is a young black man who was singled out by the anti-gun City of Norfolk after attending a City Council meeting on Oct. 8 where he and members of the VirginVCDL told the council that they were upset about how they were being treated by police.

    Gun rights advocate will be prosecuted in Waterside case | HamptonRoads.com | PilotOnline.com

    Gun rights advocate will be prosecuted in Waterside case

    By Harry Minium
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    The city will prosecute a trespassing charge against Hampton resident Dan Moore after he was ordered to leave Waterside last week for wearing a gun on his hip, and according to police, refused to leave.

    Although the retail complex has received millions of taxpayer dollars, it is a private institution that has the right to ban guns, City Attorney Bernard A. Pishko said.

    In Virginia, it is legal to carry a handgun in public.

    "Waterside is a commercial venture, with restaurants and shops," Pishko said. "This is not the kind of activity you would expect to find in a public building."

    Moore, who has had several brushes with Norfolk police over his right to carry a gun, attended a City Council meeting on Oct. 8. He and members of the Virginia Citizens Defense League told the council that they were upset about how they were being treated by police.

    Later that night, Moore and other members of the group were leaving a Waterside restaurant when they were stopped by an off-duty Norfolk police officer. They were all wearing guns. Moore was the only one arrested.

    He is scheduled to appear in General District Court on Nov. 14. He could face up to a year in jail and a hefty fine if convicted of the misdemeanor.

    Moore said Wednesday that he plans to contest the charge because Waterside is owned by taxpayers.

    "The city is talking about tearing it down because it's not making enough money," he said. "There is no question that it is city property."

    Moore also said the arresting officer told him that he could not carry a gun inside Waterside because it is a public place. However, he denies refusing to leave Waterside.

    No judge will consider Waterside private property, said Philip Van Cleave, who heads the gun rights group. "The city has a big stake in that building. I think the city attorney is doing a lot of wishful thinking."

    Twice before, Moore said he has been illegally stopped and questioned by Norfolk police. After the first incident a year ago, when he was detained while downtown, the city paid Moore $10,000 to avoid a lawsuit.

    City officials say that although Moore and others who openly carry guns downtown are within their rights, they have done so brazenly in an attempt to attract attention. This time, Moore violated the law and his judgment "could end up costing him," Pishko said.

    Pishko's office rarely sends attorneys to prosecute misdemeanors, but Pishko said they will handle this case because of its high profile nature and the precedent it could set.

    Van Cleave said his group may help Moore pay for legal representation.

    "He stood up to the city, and we certainly can't have that, can we?" Van Cleave asked sarcastically.

    "Unfortunately, I've come to expect no less from Norfolk."

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    I declare Dan Moore a "Freedom Carrier" since he carries his weapon as well as the banner of firearm rights, akin to the Freedom Riders of the civil rights era.

    Dan has suffered as a result of his dedication to the cause. I salute him!
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    This guy is a "warrior" for the 2ndA !
    If I was writing in "main stream media" style I would call him a hero
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