I just can't OC
This is a discussion on I just can't OC within the Open Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Originally Posted by j1999t
actually, im going through the same thing... i live in northern colorado and there are SO many gun owners, but OCing ...
May 9th, 2009 03:57 AM
Drop me a private message man... I am in Northern CO (Greeley/Fort Collins) also, I just received my CCW permit and OC'd a lot before I had it, lets do lunch!!
Originally Posted by j1999t
May 9th, 2009 04:52 AM
If OC was legal here, I'd be doing it on day one. If it was OC or no carry, I'd have no legal choice. Options are good, and I would rather have the choice of OC /CC for good reasons. I would OC for myself despite what others may think about it. Being a poster child for the 2A would be far from my thoughts, and I don't figure it would make me a marked man either. It's just me and my personality having to test the waters. I'm one of those who believes experience teaches us vital lessons good or bad, and if you don't try something, you'll never know.
May 9th, 2009 05:42 AM
Many people including ourselves were conditioned by the media and other sources to more or less hide our guns out of view of the public. The idea of open carry still seems unnatural to many because almost nobody except law enforcement personnel carry out in the open. The days of being able to strap on a gun belt with one or two six shooters, and walking down the street with a loaded shotgun or lever action rifle are over in the minds of the "sheep" out there. Too many folks have been conditioned into thinking the police will get there in time to save them.
I honestly think the open carry movement is a good thing. The only way we're going to be able to help people realize that its not only criminals and cops who carry guns is by carrying ourselves and letting people know that the common man can protect himself and his loved ones (and ladies too). I think its time we come out of our shells and be proud for what we stand for. It is unfortunate that when we OC in urban areas we run the risk of being harassed by LEOs and even other citizens who view OC as reckless and dumb. I just like to think of what many African Americans went through during the Civil Rights movement. They too were constantly harassed but they stood up and fought, and guess what, the government heard them and they finally got what they were after.
For those of you who still choose to carry concealed, that is cool with me, as long as you are armed!
"A right unexercised is a right lost."
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May 9th, 2009 06:55 AM
Originally Posted by SubNine
Sorry, first post, but just have to add, bravo subnine!
Originally Posted by Theman9mm
Don't take this the wrong way, but fear comes from ignorance regarding this subject. Not stupidity, I'm not trying to insult you! :P If you're going to OC, you need to know the laws of your state backwards and forwards. Unfortunately MI has some pretty confusing wording in some of their laws, but in general we have a lot of freedom to OC here :)
Take a few mins and chew on this....
MICHIGAN OPEN CARRY INFO HERE - Michigan - Stories From The States - OpenCarry.org - Discussion Forum
There is a lot of information to digest in that first post, but it's all Michigan specific, read it and read it again, then read it again, and again.
Also, highly recommended...
WASH, RINSE, REPEAT - Michigan - Stories From The States - OpenCarry.org - Discussion Forum
Awesome site guys, glad I found it. I really appreciate the attitude already around here. There is far too many gun owners that frown upon OC. Thanks for the good work you guys are doing!
May 9th, 2009 08:02 AM
It is legal here in PA. Most of you probably read the thread on the soccer mom. However, I like most are a little apprehensive. I think me and my buddy are going to try it soon just to see what kind of response we get. I'll post my findings later.
May 9th, 2009 08:53 AM
Yeh, that's what I mean. For those unfamiliar, here's a note from opencarry.org about Missouri:
Originally Posted by rmodel65
To the OP: if you can't find anyone to do it with, and still want to, maybe you could start small such as during a visit to the gas station. Paying at the pump gives you the opportunity to shield, or just leave, if you decide it's too uncomfortable. If you want, you could start small and go from there.
While open carry is generally legal in Missouri, their preemption statute is unique in that it preempts the entire field of firearms law except for the regulation of open carry. Consequently, carrying openly in Missouri will expose you to a checkerboard of local ordinances.
May 9th, 2009 02:54 PM
I just want to be able to OC when it is so hot out. It's hard to cover with cargo shorts on and a tank top. I only use a paddle holster cuz I don't like my IWB.
34 hand guns and still going.....
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May 9th, 2009 03:21 PM
May 9th, 2009 08:26 PM
I attended an OC event. I found when I was with other people with like interests it made it easier to OC. After the event, I started slowly by filling up at a gas station OC.
Originally Posted by Theman9mm
Then I slowly started taking my jacket off at a restaurant, then not even putting my jacket on. Worked my way up to OCing in grocery stores and gas stations. Then finally I just got used to it, and carried everywhere.
I still get a little skittish in malls ans such where mall ninjas might have a tendency to harass me about it, at any rate, if you take it slow, it's no biggie after a while.
May 10th, 2009 08:13 AM
It' got to be tough to do something that is legal and still get hassled.
Some of the posts are very well written, and speak volumes about why it is a good thing to OC.
I would just like to add my thought.
I grew up in the Fascist state of New Jersey. And I do believe I was "Trained" by the government and media and sheep to feel guns are bad.
Sheep need to learn that Good people carry guns too. They need more exposure. The more they see, the more Common it will become.
I don't know who said it but here is the quote. "An armed society, is a polite society."
May 10th, 2009 09:57 AM
Hello there. I am here in now sunny West Michigan awaiting my Don Hume OWB and came across your thread. I bought the OWB for open carry while hiking in the Manistee National Forest. If you find IWB uncomfortable would it be possible to wear a high rise OWB from High Noon or another manufacturer with a wicking undershirt like Underarmor and a polo shirt? I do not know how hot you get but the wicking undershirts help keep you cooler and you could cover up your pistol in the OWB if you cannot get comfortable with the idea of open carry in public. It is a tough one here in Michigan while legal it is not commonplace in most areas.
Originally Posted by Theman9mm
May 10th, 2009 10:11 AM
I wouldn't worry about it. OC isn't for everyone, just like carrying a weapon at all isn't for everyone. You have to do what you feel comfortable with.
May 11th, 2009 12:52 AM
I can open carry here in CO as well, and i did so a few times before i got my ccw. How ever if you were to go to down town Denver and Open Carry through 16th street mall. I'd imagine people would stare at you like you had the Swine Flu.
I only OC outside of town going to the mtns.
May 11th, 2009 12:56 AM
It takes some getting used to in order to OC. I've gotten very comfortable with it as I was not able to CC yet. I've probably got another 5 weeks before I can CC, but I'll enjoy both.
May 11th, 2009 01:31 AM
Grady, if you ever come down to the Memphis area (Lord only knows why you would but if you do) please let me know and we will Open Carry all over the place. St. Louis isn't too far away after all.
Originally Posted by grady
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