First time OC at Walmart

First time OC at Walmart

This is a discussion on First time OC at Walmart within the Open Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; I posted this over on OCDO about a week ago. I have oc'd around my small town of St Albans for a while without any ...

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    I posted this over on OCDO about a week ago. I have oc'd around my small town of St Albans for a while without any problems. So after reviewing the many responses on here pertaining to questions about maine laws and walmart corporate policy yesterday, I got in my truck and made my usual run to Newport with my 3yr old daughter. Had to stow my pistol unloaded while in truck, dont have CCW yet . Loaded my Makarov an holstered it strong side in a fobus paddle and walked in. Greeter welcomed me and gave my daughter a smile sticker as usual. Went thru the garden section, ammo (just looking), pharmacy, groceries, then to the checkout. As far as I know no odd looks the cashier definately noticed, she was looking at it while I loaded the belt. But did not seem uncomfortable about it. Greeter said have a nice day and I did!! I look forward to carrying more.

    All in all a non event.

    Jay

    This is a question I posted over there and maybe someone here could help. Well, I have grown very comfortable with oc everywhere. But one issue really bugs me. I am getting tired of disarming and clearing my pistol every time I get in the truck. Which brings me to a question. In a vehicle, w/o a CCW, What is the proper procedure for securing your firearm. Does it have to be unloaded and out of reach or can it be loaded but in plain view? I cant seem to find anything on this.

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    Jay


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    well i know this doesnt apply to you guys, but in colorado, u can CC in a vehicle, with a chambered firearm and loaded mag... but i have yet to OC (ive only had my gun for a month)

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    I find it somewhat amazing that the vast majority of people I meet when I OC don't have issues with this mode of carry. As long at it's legal, and we act as respeonsible adults I don't see why the average people we meet should have issues with OC. So far I've had very little problems OC here in Las Vegas.

    The odd part is that I have not seen anyone else doing the same thing. I can't wait to encounter someone else who's OC'ing the same time I've done so.
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    No OC in Florida, but when I go to Virginia I do, just to get the feel of it; I find it a non-event each time ... so far.
    I end up forgettting about the gun after a few minutes.
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    To the OP, glad it went smoothly, not always the case as you can read in many of the threads.

    Another FL resident here who can't OC, but I am thinking about trying it when we are in MI to see the grandkids in a couple of months.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jeepnjay View Post
    This is a question I posted over there and maybe someone here could help. Well, I have grown very comfortable with oc everywhere. But one issue really bugs me. I am getting tired of disarming and clearing my pistol every time I get in the truck. Which brings me to a question. In a vehicle, w/o a CCW, What is the proper procedure for securing your firearm. Does it have to be unloaded and out of reach or can it be loaded but in plain view? I cant seem to find anything on this.

    Thanks

    Jay
    Every state is different. Here in GA, on the seat in plain view, in the console or in the glove box - all legal without a permit. Does not mean will not get a LEO who does not know the law. I don't know if I were a LEO and walked up with a gun just in the seat - might put me on edge.

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    In NM you can carry in your auto, without a CCW, loaded or unloaded, and concealed or open.
    You cannot OC in Walmart because they sell alcohol.

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    Pikachu, while open carry is legal here, I would avoid the strip. Metro is almost guaranteed to get a man with a gun call, and you may enjoy your next meal as a concrete buffet. Not right, but very likely to happen. Also, open carry on a casino will likely get you asked to leave. I carry concealed in casinos regularly (in fact, since I never leave home without my gun, every time I'm in a casino I'm carrying concealed).

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    while i CC in that same walmart very regularly i never OC'd there. I have always been a little reluctant to OC or maybe just to nervous? I OC at home and around Corinna at times but mostly i CC

    as for vehicle carry my understanding is without a permit then unloaded in plain view

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    Quote Originally Posted by FlyboyLDB View Post
    Every state is different. Here in GA, on the seat in plain view, in the console or in the glove box - all legal without a permit. Does not mean will not get a LEO who does not know the law. I don't know if I were a LEO and walked up with a gun just in the seat - might put me on edge.


    you can only put it in the glove box if you're eligible for a permit(which an out of state resident isnt) as for OCing the gun in the car with current case law you cant really do that either, i guess you could hang the pistol from the rear view
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    Quote Originally Posted by halfcrazy View Post
    while i CC in that same walmart very regularly i never OC'd there. I have always been a little reluctant to OC or maybe just to nervous? I OC at home and around Corinna at times but mostly i CC

    as for vehicle carry my understanding is without a permit then unloaded in plain view
    Well Halfcrazy, If you happen to see me in walmart don't be shy, I would likt to talk to you about renewable energy. I am the guy with the gun!!! I am usually there midday during the week with my 3yo daughter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jeepnjay View Post
    This is a question I posted over there and maybe someone here could help. Well, I have grown very comfortable with oc everywhere. But one issue really bugs me. I am getting tired of disarming and clearing my pistol every time I get in the truck. Which brings me to a question. In a vehicle, w/o a CCW, What is the proper procedure for securing your firearm. Does it have to be unloaded and out of reach or can it be loaded but in plain view? I cant seem to find anything on this.

    Thanks

    Jay
    Well, that was difficult to find.
    Title 12, 11212: Motor vehicles and motorboats

    11212. Motor vehicles and motorboats
    1. Prohibition. The following provisions apply to shooting from a motor vehicle or motorboat or possessing a loaded firearm or a crossbow in a motor vehicle.
    A. A person may not shoot while in or on a motor vehicle or motorboat or while in or on a trailer or other type of vehicle being hauled by a motor vehicle except:
    (1) A person may hunt migratory waterfowl from a motorboat in accordance with federal regulations;
    (2) Paraplegics and single or double amputees of the legs may shoot from motor vehicles that are not in motion; and
    (3) A person may shoot from a motorboat if that boat is not being propelled by its motor. [2003, c. 655, Pt. B, 142 (AMD); 2003, c. 614, 9 (AFF); 2003, c. 655, Pt. B, 422 (AFF).]
    B. A person may not, while in or on a motor vehicle or in or on a trailer or other type of vehicle being hauled by a motor vehicle, have a cocked and armed crossbow or a firearm with a cartridge or shell in the chamber or in an attached magazine, clip or cylinder or a muzzle-loading firearm charged with powder, lead and a primed ignition device or mechanism, except that a person who has a valid Maine permit to carry a concealed weapon may have in or on a motor vehicle or trailer a loaded pistol or revolver covered by that permit. [2005, c. 477, 9 (AMD).]
    C. A person may not possess a wild animal or wild bird taken in violation of paragraph A or B, except as otherwise provided in this Part. [2003, c. 414, Pt. A, 2 (NEW); 2003, c. 614, 9 (AFF).]
    [ 2005, c. 477, 9 (AMD) .]
    2. Penalty. A person who violates subsection 1 commits a Class E crime.
    [ 2003, c. 655, Pt. B, 143 (NEW); 2003, c. 655, Pt. B, 422 (AFF) .]
    and

    Title 25, 2001-A: Threatening display of or carrying concealed weapon
    2001-A. Threatening display of or carrying concealed weapon
    1. Display or carrying prohibited. A person may not, unless excepted by a provision of law:
    A. Display in a threatening manner a firearm, slungshot, knuckles, bowie knife, dirk, stiletto or other dangerous or deadly weapon usually employed in the attack on or defense of a person; or [2003, c. 452, Pt. N, 2 (NEW); 2003, c. 452, Pt. X, 2 (AFF).]
    B. Wear under the person's clothes or conceal about the person's person a firearm, slungshot, knuckles, bowie knife, dirk, stiletto or other dangerous or deadly weapon usually employed in the attack on or defense of a person. [2003, c. 452, Pt. N, 2 (NEW); 2003, c. 452, Pt. X, 2 (AFF).]
    [ 2003, c. 452, Pt. N, 2 (NEW); 2003, c. 452, Pt. X, 2 (AFF) .]
    2. Exceptions. The provisions of this section concerning the carrying of concealed weapons do not apply to:
    A. Firearms carried by a person to whom a valid permit to carry a concealed firearm has been issued as provided in this chapter; [2003, c. 452, Pt. N, 2 (NEW); 2003, c. 452, Pt. X, 2 (AFF).]
    B. Disabling chemicals as described in Title 17-A, section 1002; [2003, c. 452, Pt. N, 2 (NEW); 2003, c. 452, Pt. X, 2 (AFF).]
    C. Knives used to hunt, fish or trap as defined in Title 12, section 10001; [2003, c. 452, Pt. N, 2 (NEW); 2003, c. 452, Pt. X, 2 (AFF).]
    D. Law enforcement officers, corrections officers and corrections supervisors as permitted in writing by their employer; [2005, c. 488, 7 (AMD).]
    E. Firearms carried by a person engaged in conduct for which a state-issued hunting or trapping license is required and possessing the required license, or firearms carried by a resident person engaged in conduct expressly authorized by Title 12, section 11108 and section 12202, subsection 1. This paragraph does not authorize or permit the carrying of a concealed or loaded firearm in a motor vehicle; and [2003, c. 452, Pt. N, 2 (NEW); 2003, c. 452, Pt. X, 2 (AFF).]
    F. A firearm carried by a person to whom a valid permit to carry a concealed firearm has been issued by another state if a permit to carry a concealed firearm issued from that state has been granted reciprocity. The Chief of the State Police may enter into reciprocity agreements with any other states that meet the requirements of this paragraph. Reciprocity may be granted to a permit to carry a concealed firearm issued from another state if:
    (1) The other state that issued the permit to carry a concealed firearm has substantially equivalent or stricter requirements for the issuance of a permit to carry a concealed firearm; and
    (2) The other state that issued the permit to carry a concealed firearm observes the same rules of reciprocity regarding a person issued a permit to carry a concealed firearm under this chapter. [2007, c. 555, 1 (AMD).]
    [ 2005, c. 488, 7 (AMD); 2007, c. 555, 1 (AMD) .]
    So, to answer your question, it has to be unloaded and carried in open view or concealed in the vehicle in a place other than on your person.

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    Vehicle storage option.

    I needed a way to secure a firearm in my truck also, when leaving it behind in places that I cannot carry legally. I found that there is a company that makes a secured console that you can put in your truck and lock it up. Truck Safe from Console Vault

    Unfortunately my truck was a bit older and they didnt make one for mine so I had to improvise. Its a standard "Mini Gun Vault" that I mounted to the floor of my truck under my standard console that I cut the bottom out of to fit around it.


    I am not certain what your state laws say about having it locked up when you are in the vehicle so hope this sparks an idea perhaps.

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