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    Questioned about OC

    When open carrying and asked if you are a cop, are any of the following answers good to use in order to keep the crazies from calling 911?
    1. “Loss Prevention Agent” – We are carrying in order to prevent loss of life (ours and our families).
    2. “Protective Service” or just “Body Guard” – We can claim “client confidentiality” when asked who we protect.

    Just my thoughts.

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    Any answer but "yes" would be usable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobkat View Post
    When open carrying and asked if you are a cop, are any of the following answers good to use in order to keep the crazies from calling 911?
    1. “Loss Prevention Agent” – We are carrying in order to prevent loss of life (ours and our families).
    2. “Protective Service” or just “Body Guard” – We can claim “client confidentiality” when asked who we protect.

    Just my thoughts.
    Crazies will call 911 regardless if you are plain cloths. Whenever I'm asked, I usually say no. If the conversation extends beyond that and they ask why, my usual answers are either: I can't afford a body guard or I haven't found a police officer that fits in my pocket.

    I've been unlawfully detained by the police in a local town I believe 4 times in the past 6 months. Twice by the same officer. If he stops me again I'm filing a harassment lawsuit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by doobie View Post
    I've been unlawfully detained by the police in a local town I believe 4 times in the past 6 months. Twice by the same officer. If he stops me again I'm filing a harassment lawsuit.
    Do you carry a voice recorder when you open carry? It sounds like harassment to me. He probaly figures he can wear you down and you won't carry any more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stealie View Post
    Do you carry a voice recorder when you open carry? It sounds like harassment to me. He probaly figures he can wear you down and you won't carry any more.
    Probably want to use caution here. Some statutes may prohibit recording a conversation without the person's permission.

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    Lying is not okay! If they ask and you are not LEO, then don't lie or mislead. I have no problem dialoging with someone who wonders why I carry. My favorite line is to combine the idea that "when seconds count, the police are only minutes away" with the idea that a cop is too heavy to carry in my pocket.

    I have personally found that I rarely run into really anti-gun people (AZ is still the wild west!), and when someone asks they usually can be brought around with a little humor and respect for their ideas and opinions. Those who cannot be reasoned with will not be reasonable regardless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobkat View Post
    When open carrying and asked if you are a cop, are any of the following answers good to use in order to keep the crazies from calling 911?
    1. “Loss Prevention Agent” – We are carrying in order to prevent loss of life (ours and our families).
    2. “Protective Service” or just “Body Guard” – We can claim “client confidentiality” when asked who we protect.

    Just my thoughts.
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    When ever I'm asked if I am a cop I plainly state "nope". 100% of the time so far they immediately ask "why do you have a gun then?". Then I have set my self up for a good opportunity to educate an other person on gun rights. Actually, there has only been a couple ppl who didn't think I was a cop, last person was just an older person couple days ago. He just approached me and asked how he could get a permit to carry "one of those".

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    Recording Laws

    Quote Originally Posted by MP45Man View Post
    Probably want to use caution here. Some statutes may prohibit recording a conversation without the person's permission.
    This brings up a valid point of discussion. I'm not an attorney but I'll put it in "layman's" terms as best I can. Some states are "one party" recording laws while others are "two party" recording states.

    Simply put, if your state has statutes & laws that permit recording with only ONE person aware that recording is occurring this is legal.

    If your state is a "two party" recording state you are REQUIRED by law to notify that person that they are being recorded. If you record them without their knowledge that most likely is illegal.

    Again, I'm not an attorney so research the laws of your state regarding recording conversations. If your state is a "one person" recording state you should be able to record the conversation without the other person's knowledge.

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    I wouldn't try to put a "spin" on your carrying. I mean; why do this? It certainly doesn't do anything but enhance your own ego.

    If asked, say "No."
    If asked "Why do you carry then?" Tell them that you are one of the good guys and it's legal.
    Beyond that, it's up to you whether you want to take the time to educate them on the law and our rights.

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    No, those are not acceptable answers.

    Just tell the truth. Tell the person that you are not a police officer but, a citizen who values his life and the lives of his loved ones enough to use the best means available to protect them.
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