Questioned about OC
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May 26th, 2009 07:49 PM
Questioned about OC
When open carrying and asked if you are a cop, are any of the following answers good to use in order to keep the crazies from calling 911?
1. “Loss Prevention Agent” – We are carrying in order to prevent loss of life (ours and our families).
2. “Protective Service” or just “Body Guard” – We can claim “client confidentiality” when asked who we protect.
Just my thoughts.
May 26th, 2009 07:51 PM
Any answer but "yes" would be usable.
May 26th, 2009 08:20 PM
Just say......... "My name is SUE"
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May 26th, 2009 08:31 PM
Crazies will call 911 regardless if you are plain cloths. Whenever I'm asked, I usually say no. If the conversation extends beyond that and they ask why, my usual answers are either: I can't afford a body guard or I haven't found a police officer that fits in my pocket.
Originally Posted by bobkat
I've been unlawfully detained by the police in a local town I believe 4 times in the past 6 months. Twice by the same officer. If he stops me again I'm filing a harassment lawsuit.
May 26th, 2009 11:23 PM
Do you carry a voice recorder when you open carry? It sounds like harassment to me. He probaly figures he can wear you down and you won't carry any more.
Originally Posted by doobie
We can't stop here...this is bat country.
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May 26th, 2009 11:31 PM
Probably want to use caution here. Some statutes may prohibit recording a conversation without the person's permission.
Originally Posted by Stealie
May 26th, 2009 11:58 PM
Lying is not okay! If they ask and you are not LEO, then don't lie or mislead. I have no problem dialoging with someone who wonders why I carry. My favorite line is to combine the idea that "when seconds count, the police are only minutes away" with the idea that a cop is too heavy to carry in my pocket.
I have personally found that I rarely run into really anti-gun people (AZ is still the wild west!), and when someone asks they usually can be brought around with a little humor and respect for their ideas and opinions. Those who cannot be reasoned with will not be reasonable regardless.
May 30th, 2009 01:39 AM
"No" is sufficient.
Originally Posted by bobkat
May 30th, 2009 03:51 AM
When ever I'm asked if I am a cop I plainly state "nope". 100% of the time so far they immediately ask "why do you have a gun then?". Then I have set my self up for a good opportunity to educate an other person on gun rights. Actually, there has only been a couple ppl who didn't think I was a cop, last person was just an older person couple days ago. He just approached me and asked how he could get a permit to carry "one of those".
May 30th, 2009 06:14 AM
This brings up a valid point of discussion. I'm not an attorney but I'll put it in "layman's" terms as best I can. Some states are "one party" recording laws while others are "two party" recording states.
Originally Posted by MP45Man
Simply put, if your state has statutes & laws that permit recording with only ONE person aware that recording is occurring this is legal.
If your state is a "two party" recording state you are REQUIRED by law to notify that person that they are being recorded. If you record them without their knowledge that most likely is illegal.
Again, I'm not an attorney so research the laws of your state regarding recording conversations. If your state is a "one person" recording state you should be able to record the conversation without the other person's knowledge.
This is my opinion FWIW!
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May 30th, 2009 11:24 PM
Best responce is with a question, do you mean local or state. If asked which, respond niether. If asked again, respond with either, I'm legal or MYOB.
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May 30th, 2009 11:28 PM
Are you a cop or somethin'?
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May 31st, 2009 03:39 AM
I just say I am in corporate security.....
OK Ill expand on that--
I do work in security and all my customers are corporate types.....hehehehe
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May 31st, 2009 02:12 PM
I wouldn't try to put a "spin" on your carrying. I mean; why do this? It certainly doesn't do anything but enhance your own ego.
If asked, say "No."
If asked "Why do you carry then?" Tell them that you are one of the good guys and it's legal.
Beyond that, it's up to you whether you want to take the time to educate them on the law and our rights.
May 31st, 2009 04:52 PM
No, those are not acceptable answers.
Just tell the truth. Tell the person that you are not a police officer but, a citizen who values his life and the lives of his loved ones enough to use the best means available to protect them.
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