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It seems like OC is getting easier any place that law enforcement is aware that it is legal. I've never had issues with either the general public or law enforcement, but it seems that when OC-ers have problems it is usually with LE that have not been trained on the legality of OC.
I personally go back and forth between CC and OC. I use the same belt and holster for both -- always strong side OWB (except for BUG). If I'm wearing a jacket and get warm, I switch to OC. I appreciate that in Washington I have the option.
Open Carry Issues & Discussions Discussion regarding open carry in those States where it is legal to do so. This is not a place to debate the virtues of open vs concealed carry.
If you don't open carry, that's your business. Lots of other people do, and that, likewise, is their business.
Now lets get this thread back on track, folks.
When you’re wounded and left on Afghanistan’s plains,
And the women come out to cut up what remains,
Just roll to your rifle and blow out your brains,
And go to your God like a soldier.
I had a deputy tell me the same thing the other day. He also said he gets tired of reading the old "oc'ing just gives the BGs a target" crap on the net. I asked what he meant and he said if more people would OC then it would make it easier for everyone involved. The sheep (his words, not mine)would get used to it, LEO wouldn't have to worry about dealing with BS MWAG calls, and the scum out there would realize that they are surrounded by people not willing to run and hide or cower in a corner.We do the same here in Fayetteville, NC. I actually had an LEO come up to me and say that he wished more people OCed.
Last edited by HKR; June 28th, 2009 at 06:42 PM.
I'm very comfortable with open carry here in West Tennessee. I think a lot has to do with how one dresses and carry's himself as to how people react to open carry.
BamaSteve...good to see your response, havn't seen you on in a while.
I think most LEO's and Security outfits have gone to the level 2&3 retention holsters to stop the "grab" from others. Do any of you use them or feel they are necessary especially when shopping and/or moving through crowded areas? As I consider my position on open carry this always comes to mind as I would be personally devastated if someone were to wrench my pistol away from me and injure another. Maybe this is not even a real possibility.
OC means you have to protect against the 'lunatic scenerio'...the nut that grabs your weapon while you're waiting in line at that Walmart. Not to mention you're probably legally liable for what happens as a result of the wacko grabbing/using your HG. Or am I just being paranoid here?
NOTHING good, as far as I can see, results from OC...just inviting unwanted attention to yourself/your weapon. But as was mentioned, I suppose OC is better than NC!
My $0.02...If I wanted the kind of attention OC brings I would freeball and leave my fly down...
Since the debate has kind of come up...there's just too many crazies and sheeple out there for me to feel comfotable walking around with spurs and a sidearm...
FWIW, I see folks here in NV OC on occasion...no one seems to care, at least from what I can tell. OP and other OC'ers...how are you generally perceived out there? I suppose 99% of it comes down to where you live(?)...
Last edited by Enginerd; June 28th, 2009 at 11:23 PM.
Just to reiterate what others have stated. This is not debating OC vs CC
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Open Carry Issues & Discussions. Discussion regarding open carry in those States where it is legal to do so. This is not a place to debate the virtues of open vs concealed carry.
I have nothing against CC. Just merely stating what I have experienced in the past month or so.
Since the debate has kind of come up...
It didn't. Please read Agape's above post or Captain Crunch's on page two of this thread.
If anyone still doesn't understand what this sub forum is for please PM me and I will try to explain it, although don't expect it to be quite so polite...
All in all, I'd say pretty darn positive.
But then, I guess I'm just an attention whore who should be running around with my pants down, according to the above statement?
I think the more I OC in new places the less it becomes OC or CC, it's just carrying. Luckily in Georgia and Tennessee I don't have to worry about someone seeing my weapon as much as I would in a state that doesn't allow OCing. The last time I was in Florida I was really self conscious about printing and I tend to watch it more in Alabama.
I think the few times I've OCed in a mall maybe a couple of people have visibly noticed.
For the most part people are very focused on what they are doing (usually a little too focused IMO). They're talking or texting or worrying about what they are wearing or what everyone else is wearing.
Being a married man I often times get to walk around malls/stores while my wife shops for things I'm not the least interested in and it amazes me at the lack of awareness that most people display. I can't count the number of times I've had to chase someone down to give them their wallet/keys/cellphone that they laid down and didn't notice when they walked off.
If you want to have some fun go to a mall on a Saturday (OK, I was stretching it when I said fun) and find a comfortable seat. Watch everyone for an hour. You'll be amazed at what little people notice. The first time I did this was in high school for a assignment. It can be quite entertaining and enlightening, if a little depressing.
And the 'pants down thing', not to be taken literally my friend Certainly didn't mean to offend...just saying, attention whether you want it or not.
Oh, maybe that store owner was saying thank you...for not robbing him?
(See? Sarcasm and internet just don't mix)
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Actually, he thought I was a cop, I told him "no, no, nothing like that, just a regular civilian." We were at a convenience store/gas station. And then he said thank you, I asked why, he said because no one will try to rob him while I'm in there, paying for gas.
Which I thought was weird, but whatever. I guess.