This is a discussion on Negative OC experience tonight at Collierville, TN Walmart within the Open Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Originally Posted by glazer1972 Why is it that most of the time anyone has a bad experience while oc it is almost always at WM? ...
With lots of stores, many of which carry guns and ammo, and the knowledge that corporate policy is to follow state laws, lots of people OC at walmart. So the odds of an encounter with the few managers, assistant managers or greeters that don't know the policy (or wish to ignore it) is quite high.
The bad thing is that the OC'r gets hassled, then has to be the stimulus to get corporate to educate the store management on their own policies.
When I reached around to get my wallet, I made sure I pulled my shirt up so it would uncover my gun, hopefully showing them I was not trying to hide my carry of a firearm. That seemed to calm the two guys down just slightly, seeing that I was not concerned that my gun was in plain sight. However, I felt that they had probably either already called the police or were simply waiting there for me to leave. As we walked out and reached my vehicle, a police car rounded the corner and started slowly coming our way. The groceries were already loaded so I got in and we pulled out and left. We were not followed, but as the police car pulled up to the front of the store, one of the two guys came out and pointed us out. The police never came after me.
I can see where, in this instance, had I simply just OC'd from the get go they may not have gotten so nervous. Also, if I had used one of my IWB holsters and not printed, I feel it would never have been an issue. But I shouldn't have to worry about either since I'm permitted to carry by the State of TN.
So basically you're dam*^# if you do and you're dam*^# if you don't. I think its ridiculous but feel that after all the recent world events revolving around guns that more and more people are going to be completely frightened by the sight of an OC or badly CC'd weapon. Before long I feel that more and more stores will make the ridiculous decision to ban carry of guns by law abiding citizens in their stores to keep the sheeple from running amock, all the while allowing the non law abiding citizens to continue to carry.
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TnMike I agree with calling corporate and speaking to them but...
Make a point to tell them you are considering taking your business to a competitor in the area, one that will not harass you for doing nothing wrong.
They will not care if you choose to take your business elsewhere. I worked for Wal Mart while off duty from the Police Department and you cannot imagine how many times a customer would say the exact same thing and from the manager to corporate they did not care. Then it was not uncommon to see the same customer three days later back in the store shopping away. Overall the company will do what they can to satisfy the customer but the minute those words come out they lose interest quickly.
"A first rate man with a third rate gun is far better than the other way around". The gun is a tool, you are the craftsman that makes it work. There are those who say "if I had to do it, I could" yet they never go out and train to do it. Don't let stupid be your mindset. Harryball 2013
People just want to know that they can trust you, and your assurance has to be delivered in a short sound-bite. If asked if I'm a cop, I would respond "I'm an off-duty soldier".
Carrying open is a unique signature of American culture and freedom. Open carry should be celebrated as a patriotic act.
"She went on to say she hoped I wouldn't shoot anyone..."
Good Lord, how insulting!
A person does not need a gun to commit a violent crime. I wonder if she asks every person that walks into the store to not punch, strangle or rape someone????
Such ignorance is disheartening.
I think open carriers may be doing themselves and concealed carriers more harm than good. Look at California. They cracked down hard on open carry. Now you have to be careful your neighbors don't see your guns when you are loading up the car to go to the range. Keep sticking our heads up on this issue and we are going to get whacked.
just think what it's going to be like if we get OC or CC in this state. i'm for both but i will CC so i don't get a lot of attention to me. the public see it than there scared but if they don't see it than there not scared. they say OC will be the thing of the past but i don't think it will.
Its saddening and disgusting how doing absolutely NOTHING wrong can result in a big headache for an individual while OC. It really is sad.
OP: Looks like you handled it well. Good. I'm glad that everything with the letter worked out, and the manager wasn't seemingly foul or bitter with you for the whole ordeal. are all too common these days
PS to all those folks saying "Well I just CC to avoid that,.." or "oc sucks",...you DO realize that directly under where it says Defensivecarry.com on the top left hand side of the browser, it says CONCEALED CARRY, OPEN CARRY, FIREARMS, ,....et. al.
"To blame a gun for a mans decision is to foolishly attribute free will to an inanimate object"- Colion Noir.