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    My personal journey with open carry
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    Every day we have the opportunity to influence how other people view
    responsible gun owners. Who have you influenced today?.


    Marc Montoni emailed me this:

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    My Personal Journey with Open Carry
    by Marc Montoni

    In 1971, at the age of 9, I was stuffing envelopes for a Democratic
    candidate I didn't even know, while on a family visit to Pittsfield,
    MA. My mother had taken me and my sister to see relatives in the
    area, and one of the relatives was supporting a local campaign for
    office. Two things I remember about the mailing party we stumbled
    upon during our visit were 1) one of the relatives making an impromptu
    speech about guns and how they should all be outlawed, and 2) I was a
    super mean envelope-stuffer. People around the table were amazed at
    how fast I was assembling the mailing. I distinctly remember the
    sound of those custom-imprinted nail files with the candidate's name
    and office on them, hitting the envelopes I was stuffing.

    In retrospect, I probably wasn't so fast so much as everyone else was
    yakking a lot about the campaign.

    Throughout the seventies as I became a young adult, I remember many
    conversations with my parents about gun laws in the United States.
    The often bemoaned their still-(somewhat)-legal status. At that time,
    I swallowed their line without question.

    Then, in 1980, a friend handed me a copy of 'The Fountainhead', by Ayn
    Rand, and from there I became affiliated with the Libertarian Party.
    I changed my mind about guns, but consciously declined to buy one for
    myself for several years. I remember thinking about it, but I was too
    nervous about guns -- a relic of my upbringing -- to own a "real"
    one. I had shot BB guns and even a small .22 during my youth, and it
    didn't seem a big deal -- but bigger guns seemed like magical objects
    to me.

    That changed in 1993. By chance one day, I saw a friend on the
    Henrico County police force, Officer Pace, looking through some
    collectible comics at a comic shop. Pace had helped me on a couple of
    previous occassions (accidents or crimes I had witnessed, I think). I
    believe this is the same Officer Pace in this [very poor] photo:

    http://tinyurl.com/n5dpl8

    For whatever reason, we got on the subject of guns. He told me that
    citizens can wear a gun openly, on their hip, or three points visible
    in a car, without a permit. I'd been thinking more and more about
    guns in the years leading up to this, and I was looking for a way to
    increase public awareness of the law-abiding ownership and carrying of
    weapons. Officer Pace's words on open carry inspired me to do more
    research on the law.

    Eventually I decided that open carry fulfilled my goal perfectly, so I
    went to a local gun dealer and bought my first gun, a Davis P-380 semi-
    auto:

    http://tinyurl.com/mgdwxc

    In retrospect, it was a laughable carry piece. It was too small for
    my hand -- two of my fingers were all that could securely grip the
    handle. But for the moment, it would do. Besides, Davis Industries
    was a pretty cool little company. It was a California shop, and it
    warranted all of its guns for life -- which came in handy when a
    couple of parts eventually broke on the gun. Too bad they, like many
    others, were sued out of existence.

    But in any case, I knew if I owned a gun, I needed to know how it
    worked, so about a week after I bought it, I stopped in at a then-
    brand-new shooting range, U.S. Training & Development (now called Top
    Gun Shooting Range), in Harrisonburg, VA. I nervously bought my first
    box of ammo, a couple of targets, borrowed eyes and ears, and went to
    the lane. On the first round I shot, my hands were so shaky I there
    was this nagging thought I should just forget it and leave. But I
    squeezed it off, and except for a few jams that the attendant showed
    me how to handle, 50 shots went flying away just fine.

    A couple of thousand rounds later, that gun is pretty much toast, and
    I have a better carry piece that actually fits my hand now.

    But in between my first outing in the spring of 1993 and now, I have
    been in places all over Virginia with a gun on my hip, and have fired
    thousands of rounds through every conceivable type of gun at numerous
    indoor and outdoor ranges.

    Most places I have been, there were no issues. However, I was thrown
    out of the Valley Mall once in Harrisonburg (1995), I was asked to
    leave The Grey Wolf Grill (1998) at Willow Lawn Shopping Center in
    Henrico (ironically the Grey Wolf was two doors down from where that
    conversation with Officer Pace had taken place almost five years
    earlier), an old man in the buffet line at a Western Sizzlin in
    Henrico angrily asked me and my friend Chris why we were carrying, and
    verbally berated us for doing so, and a few other minor incidents of a
    similar nature.

    I have been stopped once or twice for traffic violations, and it's
    never been much of an issue with the officer involved.

    In all, I'd say my experience was positive, and advanced gun rights.

    * My mother, who had been anti-gun all her life, started talking to me
    about them. Eventually, she agreed to go target shooting with me --
    the first time she'd *ever* held a gun, much less fired one.

    * My best friend, Chris, began a gun collection and open-carrying
    odyssey of his own -- he now has more guns in more varieties than I do
    (a fact which I agree shames me).

    * The barber I used to go to regularly began talking to me about guns
    and carrying, over the course of six months' worth of periodic hair
    cuts. By the end of that six months, I accompanied her to a gun store
    to shop. While she didn't buy that day, she did buy shortly
    thereafter -- and I treated her to her first 50 rounds of ammo and an
    hour at the range.

    * When I bought my first house, one of my longest-term roommates was a
    good friend -- a fellow I'd sold a car to in 1982, and we'd remained
    friends ever since (must have been a good car to him). After seeing
    me carry for a while, he bought his own gun, too.

    * Another roommate was a student from mainland China. I took her
    shooting with all of my guns also. We had several interesting
    conversations about guns -- she told me that all Chinese citizens are
    trained to arms from a young age. That meant shooting was nothing new
    to this bantamweight 18-year-old young lady, which surprised me no end.

    * Countless other friends have gone shooting for the first time in
    their lives -- with my guns.

    I eventually created a flyer to carry in my back pocket about open
    carry / any kind of carry, just to answer the most common questions
    (unfortunately, as open carry has become more accepted and I've had to
    explain it less, I managed to lose my digital file of that flyer).
    The gist of it was I'd been telling questioners verbally: that I
    believed a right not used is a right you will lose; and that I wanted
    to confront the image most people had of guns. TV news had long
    promoted a very one-sided view of guns - they would show the aftermath
    of violence in DC readily, but they would put stories of people
    defending themselves in the dustbin. The only other times citizens
    saw guns were when they were on the hips of government cops.

    In short, I became a missionary for gun rights as much as I had become
    a missionary for the Libertarian Party. It was a happy coupling,
    though. The Libertarian Party has by far the strongest position of
    any U.S. political party on the private ownership of weapons.
    Libertarians are probably more consistent on weapons than even some of
    the most radical gun groups. My own version of libertarianism says
    that if a weapon is too dangerous for citizens to own, then it's too
    dangerous for governments to own as well. Readers may then surmise
    that I believe as as the Founders believed - that individuals should
    be allowed to own & bear military-class weapons, primarily as the best
    defense against tyranny.

    I continue to carry to this day, and it warms my heart to see so many
    others have joined the movement. Thank you, Internet.

    And thank you, Officer Pace.
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    I am neither an attorney-at-law nor I do play one on television or on the internet. No one should assumes my opinion is legal advice.

    Veni, Vidi, Velcro


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    Cool story.

    +1!
    That which does not kill us leaves us broken and bleeding...

    Donít mess with the guy who can barely stand up. His remaining options for self-defense don't include your survival.

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    Great story; makes me want to start open carrying more. I wonder if Officer Pace knows all this...
    BLONDIE: You may run the risks, my friend, but I do the cutting. If we cut down my percentage... cigar? Liable to interfere with my aim.

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    [Golf Claps]

    - Janq
    "Killers who are not deterred by laws against murder are not going to be deterred by laws against guns. " - Robert A. Levy

    "A license to carry a concealed weapon does not make you a free-lance policeman." - Florida Div. of Licensing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Janq View Post
    [Golf Claps]

    - Janq
    I thought Golf Claps were a thing of past history.

    With all the hollering today, I expect to hear someone shout "IN THE HOLD" when someone tees off on a par 5.
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    I'm just one root in a grassroots organization. No one should assume that I speak for the VCDL.

    I am neither an attorney-at-law nor I do play one on television or on the internet. No one should assumes my opinion is legal advice.

    Veni, Vidi, Velcro

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