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    Have to ask. Whats the VA tuck??


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    Quote Originally Posted by JeeperSean View Post
    ...in VA can you CC in a non-serving restaurant?
    If you meant a non-alcohol-serving restaurant: yes, if you have a CC permit recognized by Virginia.

    Quote Originally Posted by hayzor View Post
    Whats the VA tuck??
    Since concealed carry is illegal in a Virginia alcohol-serving venue, the choices are open carry or no carry. The VA tuck refers to choosing open carry by tucking the concealing garment behind the normally-concealed pistol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anubis View Post
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    Since concealed carry is illegal in a Virginia alcohol-serving venue, the choices are open carry or no carry. The VA tuck refers to choosing open carry by tucking the concealing garment behind the normally-concealed pistol.


    Do it regularly.

    Even with a IWB, as long as your carry can be identified as a firearm you are legal.

    Depending on the cover I tuck a cover shirt behind the grip or pull the tuckable shirt up over the grip & slide.

    One warning, however -- be sure to uncover before coming through the door and do not recover until after you get outside, especially at affairs like VCDL events, which can draw attention from antis. Also, take care where there is an outside seating/serving area, even in cold weather when not in use. The perimeter of the on-premises area should be marked, if outside the building.

    BTW -- off-premises sales vendors are OK for CC.

    BTW2 -- the CC restriction only applies to restaurants and clubs not all on-premises situations/venues.
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    Similar has happened to me. OC is allowed in Minnesota and I've found I prefer it to CC. I have been approached a dozen or so times by people who see my Glock 22 and ask if I'm a LEO. I explain I am not and almost every time a short Q & A ensues. A few times it's as simple as:

    Them: 'Are you a cop?'
    Me: 'No.'
    Them: Continue with their business.

    Glad your experience has been as good as mine. FWIW, I have open-carried, without problems, in the following locations:

    * Liquor Stores
    * Bars
    * Grocery Stores
    * Malls
    * Through the investigations unit of a local Sheriff's Office (nobody even batted an eye!)
    * Gas Stations
    * While helping a stranded motorist.
    * While riding my motorcycle.

    The attached image is from a ride to Stillwater, Minnesota with a buddy. You cannot see it here, but I was open-carrying that day. Stillwater is on the Minnesota-Wisconsin border, so we had to stay on the Minnesota side.
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    Surely your not referring to El Paso, TX? It is illegal to OC in Texas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ErnieNWillis View Post
    Surely your not referring to El Paso, TX?
    "El Paso Mexican Restaurant" has several locations in Virginia.

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    I love a good OC story, I've always prefered CC, but I've been OCing a little more lately and have had good experiences with it. No such restrictions here in Utah with restraunts, CC pretty much where ever you want here. (Very few restrictions)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anubis View Post
    "El Paso Mexican Restaurant" has several locations in Virginia.

    Oops! I had to read it again. BTW, how's the Mexican Food in VA?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ErnieNWillis View Post
    Oops! I had to read it again. BTW, how's the Mexican Food in VA?
    To be honest, it sucks! Having lived in SW OK for 18 years, I miss really good Tex Mex food.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sigmanluke View Post
    I love a good OC story, I've always prefered CC, but I've been OCing a little more lately and have had good experiences with it. No such restrictions here in Utah with restraunts, CC pretty much where ever you want here. (Very few restrictions)
    I think the new governor-elect will take care of that restriction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ErnieNWillis View Post
    Oops! I had to read it again. BTW, how's the Mexican Food in VA?
    It is good in Chapel Hill, Nc.

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    Congrats on a positive OC experience! I always enjoy reading these type stories.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JeeperSean View Post
    ok now i haven't been clear on this when in VA can you CC in a non-serving restaurant? I visit my dad there and am never sure what to do about restaurant in general. And he is one of those types who has is permit and doesn't use it... so he's no help on knowing what's what.
    I tend to err on the side of caution - I always OC when going into any restaurant. That way I don't have to look for their ABC license posting.

    None has asked me to leave yet. I'm sure it'll happen, though. Their loss. My husband has already told me we can't ever go to Olive Garden again because their corporate policy is to ask an armed citizen to disarm or leave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by archer51 View Post
    When the waiter returned with our drinks, he ask me if I was a LEO, to which I replied I wasn't. He said they noticed my gun and asked me why I carried. I simply told him for protection. His reply was, "Oh, Okay".
    "Gee, are you a criminal?" "No," I said. "Oh, okay."

    You've gotta wonder: if satisfying an interest is all the benefit obtained by querying someone, then what's the point of even bringing it up? I can't fathom what people get from asking, if it doesn't confirm someone's a criminal or citizen anyway.

    Reality is, it's not possible to know whether a criminal is in our midst unless such a person goes haywire. And, only if a criminal advertises in advance (by going openly), will it be even apparent that person's armed.

    Thus, obviously, there is nothing to worry about unless actual overt actions of crime ensue.

    It's a nutty world we live in, full of naivete and silliness.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Riana View Post
    I tend to err on the side of caution - I always OC when going into any restaurant. That way I don't have to look for their ABC license posting.

    None has asked me to leave yet. I'm sure it'll happen, though. Their loss. My husband has already told me we can't ever go to Olive Garden again because their corporate policy is to ask an armed citizen to disarm or leave.
    I open carry in Olive Garden all the time. The ones here in Richmond aren't posted, and no one has ever said anything to me about it.

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