This is a discussion on Security Guard tries to take pistol from OC'er. within the Open Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Originally Posted by spooter66 Please tell me it involved a flute! well yes it did, I had 11 no wait 14 guards running after me ...
Protecting my family, until the U.N. takes that right away from us
An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life. - Robert A. Heinlein
Well I'm just about to set out to that Wal-Mart. I'll be concealed considering its damn cold out there. No chance my down coat is going to 'print' or 'bulge' so if they have Magnatometers, which I doubt they have, they will be no chance that they will know I'm armed.
I will also check before entering for any 'gun's not permitted' signs on the entry door.
I checked with my son, his brother in law was Sam's Club Loss Prevention and there is no way they would have been allowed to stop, detain, or disarm someone unless there was a 'retail fraud' in which case they can detain for the LEO's but they can not forcibly dis-arm a lawfully carrying citizen.
ADDENDUM: No posted signs, normal loss prevention magnetometer at entrances and exits, no issues at all. My coat was on however.
Last edited by mel5051; January 13th, 2010 at 04:09 PM.
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Michigan Sheriff's Association
“The key is to hit them hard, hit them fast, and hit them repeatedly. The one shot stop is a unit of measurement not a tactical philosophy.” Evan Marshall
This is my first post here, so I would like to say hello at the same time. - I am an armed guard and CCW holder out in California. I take my job seriously, while at the same time having no desire to be seen as a "Mall Cop," or wanna be cop. I have taken all the training available to me including firearms, baton, chemical weapons and stun gun. I'm also an NR-EMT and Woofer. - My first thought to this incident is what the hell happened to "observe and report." THIS is what a guards primary job is. We are NOT cops. We have not been trained as such. This guard is just another example of the ones that make me cringe, and that embarrass me.
As for me....IF the OC guy had made my antenna go up for a good reason, I would do as I was trained...observe and report. I would then discreetly watch from a distance, while praying to the powers that be, that I will not be forced to do anything. And this is assuming the OC did anything to warrant any extra attention. Having a gun on his hip would not be enough in my mind.....more guns...less crime.
So, has this incident been determined to be legitimate?
Be not far from me, for trouble is near; For there is none to help. psalm22:11
My question too.....has this been resolved (the validity of the reported event)
Magazine <> clip - know the difference
martyr is a fancy name for crappy fighter
You have never lived until you have almost died. For those that have fought for it, life has a special flavor the protected will never know
IF this story is true.....the guard is lucky he is still breathing
what an idiot
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Independence is declared; it must be maintained. Sam Houston-3/2/1836
If loose gun laws are good for criminals why do criminals support gun control?
Absolutely not. Even if it was a police officer, and even if the guy was carrying illegally, it still would have been a stupid move to try disarming him in this manner.
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looks like this guy was some kind of security person with military training, and guard is lucky to be alive