Security Guard tries to take pistol from OC'er.

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    Wow talk about jackpot...got to teach a good lesson to a donkeys behind and I hope he has picked out the new toys "the big box store" will buy for him. The moment the guard touched him is it not considered assault? ...I think so. Assaulted by an employee of a big store I bet they want to keep it quiet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hengst View Post
    Wow talk about jackpot...got to teach a good lesson to a donkeys behind and I hope he has picked out the new toys "the big box store" will buy for him. The moment the guard touched him is it not considered assault? ...I think so. Assaulted by an employee of a big store I bet they want to keep it quiet.
    Whenever you touch someone without their consent is Nevada that is considered a crime of "battery." In Nevada that is an ARRESTABLE offense. One security company I worked for explained that in great detail. You can NEVER touch anyone without their consent. If you touch someone that person may decide to have you arrested for "battery."

    If I were to have touched the shoplifting suspect that would have put myself, my employer as well as the store where the "alleged" shoplifting suspect in a legally questionable situation. I would have been terminated at the least.
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    What the security guard is guilty of is assault and attempted theft,I would be lawyering up to sue the idiots that hired him
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    Quote Originally Posted by SIGguy229 View Post
    This is what happens when people attempt to overstep their authority...after all, what kind of idiot tries to disarm a peaceful citizen carrying his pistol?

    Hopefully, an unemployed one.
    Wow he must have been uninformed about the OC law's.... He is lucky that he is still alive and breathing.... This might not have been so good had it been someone else.... +1 to the Self Awareness
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    The guard got what he deserved. Hope there is no fallout for the guy who decked him.

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    As another poster said..... I do believe the guard committed assault when he grab the guy oc'ing. I myself would press charges against the store. Could be a payday in it for him.(sorry I'm greedy lol) And I also wonder If he was an armed or unarmed guard. An unarmed guard touching a gun could also be another issue.

    Either way the security guard messed up and the store should be liable for his actions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kellyII View Post
    Well he's lucky he just suffered some Pop Nots and not any bullet holes. I just cant imagine what the security dummy was thinking.
    Thinking?
    Sure doesn't seem like he did any thinking at all. Any idiot that thinks they are going to walk up behind me and take my firearm, would immediately be suspected of possily trying to use it on me and could end up in very serious condition, or worse.
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    Author: mathar1 "Appreciate that chief. I'm good (he's not however...I know I broke his nose and his jaw and he couldn't stand on his leg) I am just mad as a wet hen."

    Was just reading through some of the latest posts about what happened. I'm sure that security guard knows what he did was a no no now lol.
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    Wow... What a dumb move on the guards part. Glad the guy kept his head after he removed the threat to his weapon. Good for him!

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    Great! Now we're going to have to change the "stupid scale" because this moron just exceeded "totally stupid"!
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    Good thing the security guard didn't have a gun. He would definitely be a liability to the store.

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    Had the yahoo tried to do that to someone that was an off duty cop, it would have been ruled a justifiable shoot.

    In lots of places, weapon retention is a justifiable shoot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kellyII View Post
    Well he's lucky he just suffered some Pop Nots and not any bullet holes. I just cant imagine what the security dummy was thinking.
    That's why he's a security dummy. Paul Blart-Mall Cop !!


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    poorly or zero training

    Yes, the guard should have spoken to the man. If he was worried, he should have called the cops and let them do a field interview.
    Just grabbing a person and trying to take the gun, it could have been an insane guard getting ready to go postal.

    I am reminded of the armed guard in California 20 some years ago who shot and killed a woman because she was in the express lane with too many items at the grocery store. He told her to move several times and then shot her.

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    One of my greatest areas of shame in life is that on occasion between better jobs, I have prostituted my military/LEO training out to these "security" agencies for a paycheck. I know a man's gotta do what he's gotta do to put food on the family table, but I was always horrifically embarrassed by the overwhelming majority of my co-workers.

    While many security guards are former/retired military or LE, the vast majority are those who want to wear a badge and carry a gun, but can't qualify for military or civil service due to mental, moral, and/or physical deficiencies.

    Some of the old vets and I used to roll our eyes. Some of these dweebs were the literal "mall ninjas" we despise in this online community. I've been following this story on the Georgiapacking site quite closely. It will be interesting and educational to all of us to see how this turns out.

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