Open Carry Noob, Critique My Attire

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    I'm sorry, folks, but whether it should or shouldn't, your first impression does affect how people react to and interact with you, and first impressions do affect outcomes. The good thing is that times have changed and public life is generally more casual than it used to be. I think it is safe to say that it doesn't matter whether you buy your clothes at the Goodwill, Walmart, or Joseph Banks; if you are clean and dress with self-respect, you will be better received than if you are unkempt and sloppy. People are more willing to give you the benefit of the doubt.

    There is a reason why you are polite, civil and respectful during a traffic stop - because it makes a favorable impression. Your attire makes an impression, too.

    SentryOne, it's hard to OC without tucking in your shirt, just from a practical standpoint. As long as you are reasonably clean and neat, I don't think most people with notice or care that you are carrying. If people do notice, the better your first impression, the more lattitude you are likely to receive. We tend to be a lot more conscious of our own carry, than others are.
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    I don't OC unless going to the range either but one thing I have noticed is that with all the local MWAG stories I've heard is that they were not using a holster (i.e. just tucked in their pants) or carrying SOB. Those OC'ing with a proper holster firmly attached to their side do occasionally get asked to leave various places but more often than not are merely told to do so and not presumed to be a robber by the police.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SentryOne View Post
    I've read threads talking about people's reactions and have read advice that you should look presentable if you do decide to OC.

    I wouldn't say I resemble a BG but I dress a little casual.

    ... Levis, an undershirt ... a button up shirt ... I NEVER tuck in the outer shirt ... Timberland boot ... normally a beard or patch on my chin.

    I don't want to scare the sheep ...
    Well, you might. "Crisp and clean" does help assuage fears. No doubt about it, with most folks. What you have described is basic casual, bordering on "grunge." (I mean that in a good way, as in the "grunge" style of the Pacific Northwest, which often involves "lumberjack" type dress, boots, facial hair, etc.)

    I don't know what type of reaction to expect. The goal here is to avoid MWAG calls. Based on what I've described on how I dress, what do you think the reaction will be?
    Depends on the people involved.

    I dress fairly neatly, if on the casual side of business-casual. It's certainly not threatening in the least. As well, I look and act like I belong, like I know my way around and am supposed to be there. Attitude plays a part, beyond dress. So far, I have gotten no such calls, though occasionally I will get some looks and minor comments. Obviously, though, I'm not a criminal intending on being a threat, so their better judgment gets the better of them.

    Depends on your demeanor + your dress + your engagement with others, and how others treat those engagements. Can't always anticipate how others will react.

    Beyond that, I don't know what to tell you. It's largely going to depend on the incidence of OC in your area, and how generally tolerant the region seems to be for that sort of thing. Even then, all it takes is one person to go "wiggy" on you. In those cases, you'll know when you know, likely at the point of being approached by police who are attempting to "enforce" the fears of others on you.
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    If I open carry, I'm don't specifically change the way I dress, but if I am dressed up, I am more likely to open carry. I have more or less quit OCing for a reason of local politics though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Agave View Post
    I have more or less quit OCing for a reason of local politics though.
    Regrettfully the only place an officer has freaked out on me, was when CC during a traffic stop in Memphis. That is one screwed up place.

    When I am open carrying it is when camping, boating, or four wheeling. I still try to look presentable.

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    I agree with Tom357 on this topic. Dressing clean and sharp normally is more favorable when OCing in my experience. Normally I'll OC with jeans, combat boots, and a plain pullover or T-shirt. When I'm heading out to shoot I'll put on blue BDUs and a blue or black T-shirt tucked in and I make sure my hair is pinned or pulled back.
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    In that first pic you look almost like a LEO :-P except for the ahem shorts hehe. OC with a SERPA or a leather holster with flap retention.
    The others are correct. It is your manner, your bearing, the way you carry yourself that determines how others are usually going to react. An IWB is definately NOT the way to OC as at least here in Michigan IWB can be construed as concealed carry.

    Good luck and remember, The way you carry yourself Determines how others Perceive you!

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    btw I thought firearms were a no no inside vegas casino's?????
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    Never OC with a Glock. They are ugly and should never be seen in public. Life is to short to carry an ugly gun. Get a nice shiny 1911. Never said Glocks were a bad gun I would CC Glocks only. LOL
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    I'm proud of my Walther P99 AS :-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by 007BondJames View Post
    Never OC with a Glock. They are ugly and should never be seen in public. Life to short to carry an ugly gun. Get a nice shiny 1911. Never said Glocks were a bad gun I would CC only. LOL
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    So how have your experiences been... those of you who have been confronted because you are OCing? Any learning experiences or horror stories of LEOs drawing on you simply because you have a gun on you?

    Reason I ask... I am considering a lot more of open carry. Let me emphasize; "considering." I have my CPL, so no issues with concealed carry, other than the face that I do have one of those ugly black guns, and a BIG one... the Glock 21.

    Thoughts ??? Experiences, good or bad ???
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    Quote Originally Posted by bgriffin70 View Post
    So how have your experiences been... those of you who have been confronted because you are OCing? Any learning experiences or horror stories of LEOs drawing on you simply because you have a gun on you?

    Reason I ask... I am considering a lot more of open carry. Let me emphasize; "considering." I have my CPL, so no issues with concealed carry, other than the face that I do have one of those ugly black guns, and a BIG one... the Glock 21.

    Thoughts ??? Experiences, good or bad ???
    i can't post links here, because of content issues, but if you want some horror stories, go to Pennsylvania Firearm Owners Association, look up my screen name (it's the same as here), go to my profile page, find all threads i started, and read about my experiences with various people, both LEO and private citizens. most of them are funny, though i was pissed off at the time they took place. a few of them still gall me when i think about them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bgriffin70 View Post
    So how have your experiences been... those of you who have been confronted because you are OCing? Any learning experiences or horror stories of LEOs drawing on you simply because you have a gun on you?

    Reason I ask... I am considering a lot more of open carry. Let me emphasize; "considering." I have my CPL, so no issues with concealed carry, other than the face that I do have one of those ugly black guns, and a BIG one... the Glock 21.

    Thoughts ??? Experiences, good or bad ???
    I was disarmed once, during the investigation of a traffic accident. No questions and no grief though.

    I talked to 2 cops in a pawn shop while buying ammo. One cop told me to send the BG a bill if I had to shoot him since the ammo was so expensive.

    Had one cop turn around on me at the same pawn shop and give the the stink eye as I got in my truck. Then he drove off.

    Walked between 2 cops in a gun shop. The one on my strong side got big eyed, but no questions.

    My local PD just sent word out to all the LEO's that OC in a holster is not GATTTOTP. And that they better not try to charge anyone for it unless they are waving the gun around. WOOHOOO!!!

    I was threatened to be kicked out of Walmart. Got that straightened out and was told I could OC there anytime. Most of my experience has been positive or non eventful.

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    Gatttotp

    Quote Originally Posted by chiefjason View Post
    My local PD just sent word out to all the LEO's that OC in a holster is not GATTTOTP.
    Ahem... translate, please.

    I may OC my EDC in an OWB and put a BUG in a IWB, load 'em both with WWB JHPs and of course I always have my CCW right next to my DL in a pocket in my BDUs... but WTH is GATTTOTP???

    That one isn't on the 3-page list of acronyms and abbreviations published here a few months ago, so I'm lost.
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