Reason being in that although we all have a specific image of what a drug dealer might appear to be, dress, look like and even drive as a vehicle.
Fact is drug dealers look like everybody and anyone, even in specific regions and housing areas.
They come in every age group too, from K-12 type to being senior citizens with grey hairs as grandmas.
Just like any other criminal type.
This falls under the no longer a major national topic but was not minor condition as related to 'DWB' (Driving While Black/Brown).
Asking a person if anything about them seems drug dealer criminal could and does apply to everyone and literally anyone...
Do you have tats of any sort?
Do you have piercings of any sort?
Do you wear jewelry of any sort?
Do you have less than perfectly straight and/or white colored teeth?
Do you wear shoes?
Do you ride a motorcycle?
Is your vehicle brand new?
Is your vehicle not new?
Is your vehicle extremely clean and well kept?
Is your vehicle dirty and unkempt?
Do you have tinted windows?
Are you age 7 or older?
Are you a human being able to breath oxygen?
Really what exactly does a 'criminal' look like?
Every criminal I've ever seen for any and all crimes looks like a human being, and that's about as narrow as I can call it....Even for rapists (women do rape as well as do men).
You have a point Jang, perhaps my question was unfair. I'm not trying to ruffle any feathers, I'm just trying to get a little insight from a perspective that I don't have. My black friends either don't have these problems, or they are cops too. To be honest about it, I have two non LEO friends that are black... I know its not a huge sample to pull from, but its what I got. That is why I am asking here.
But, real world, there are certain things that scream out to me "Drug Dealer". It might be a the large sedan that sits a little strange on the suspension, multiple temp tags issued on the same vehicle, the car registered to a female, when its obviously a guys car, etc. That is what I'm trying to get at with that question.
No worries SIXTO, and no disrespect intended nor offense taken at all.
I point these thing out because well as fact everybody and anybody by specific look/spec has committed any and every crime imaginable.
The best example I can think of that _everyone_ will understand is the DC Sniper case.
I was living in VA at that time and the earliest shooting in Manassas happened at the gas station where then I used to go to get my gas.
Everybody in every circle civilian as well as law enforcement too upon realizing this was a serial shooter were assuming and on the look out for a white male as within an age range. The FBI then were on TV stating same.
Imagine everyone surprise when the shooter is found to be not one but two people, and they are an older post middle age Negro male as well as a teen protege also Negro.
They look like you, me and everybody.
What makes them stand out to the most part are their actions and thoughts, which aren't always obvious and easy to discern by following patterns.
I personally would never imply that a fellow member might be a 'criminal' as by choice of action or behavior.
We must assume that we all are lawful citizens in our private and personal life choices. Besides why shouldn't a person be able to choose to live their life as they deem best and most comfortable for them?
That is what carry is all about at it's core, and sadly some folk who choose to carry OC get run up on with assumption of being less than lawful mindset persons.
I'll admit I was surprised about the DC sniper too. That's a good example to use.
this is an intersting topic i had never or would never had given any thought to otherwise....thanks for bringing it up and more thanks for the participation and sharing...
unfortunately, you were correct about your naivete. it's difficult to explain to a caucasian what it's like to be profiled because of your ethnicity without sounding bitter.
when i first got my license to carry concealed, and did it, whenever i passed a cop, i had an irrational fear i'd be made, and get arrested, even though what i was doing was entirely legal. i blame that on being a witness to years of police abuses in NYC.
i'm fairly confident that if i weren't hispanic, i wouldn't have had nearly the amount of issues i've had while OCing.
I'm pretty sure Jang was saying just the opposite. Its not that everything is the same, but that a threat or in this case, a drug dealer, can come in any form. The proverbial "Wolf in sheep's clothing" if you will.
What percentage of hits in the dragnet is accetpable for infringing ones peaceable journey to investigate if it's a BG? It's really a rhetorical question, I don't mean to sound flip. It's a conumdrum because I see the reasons for it but dislike that a US citizen with all of the protections of the Constitution can get put in the back seat until he "proves" he's not breaking the law.