Open carry deters armed robbery in Kennesaw Ga.

Open carry deters armed robbery in Kennesaw Ga.

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    Open carry deters armed robbery in Kennesaw Ga.

    Open carry deters armed robbery in Kennesaw

    There is some debate raging in Georgia about whether people should conceal their holstered handguns while in public. Some believe that wearing handguns openly will result in a loss of the element of surprise during a criminal attack, such as an armed robbery, while others believe that wearing handguns openly deters criminal attack. For Matt Brannan and J.P. Mitchell, who carry openly as a routine, the issue is no longer academic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tmoore912 View Post

    Outstanding story! Nice to see it was confirmed by multiple sources. Very, very nice...
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    Fantastic!
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    Also good to see that the two armed citizens noticed the mutt. Shows good situational awareness, which is just as important as the iron on the hip.
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    This could have gone either way, the robbers could have come in shooting as they had visibly armed targets. Thankfully it seems they were just in it for the money and didn't want to fight over it.

    Overall a good read and does make light of the deterrent factor.

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    So much for the people who believe the opposite. OC IS a deterent.
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    While the robbers could have come in shooting, this proves that your average criminal is unwilling to use force if force may be used on him. While open carry may not always be a deterrent, it will at least deter your friendly, not-so-tough neighborhood thug.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sigmanluke View Post
    So much for the people who believe the opposite. OC IS a deterent.
    I think it might be more accurate to say OC may be a deterrent. In this particular case, it was. In others, it may not be. Just as concealed carry may provide a tactical advantage and it may not. I don't think you can ever say either is absolutely true in every situation 100% of the time. That is why the argument will never end.

    Is is great to see that it paid off in this, case, however. Again, kudos to the well-armed gentlemen from GA. Gonna' be awfully hard to talk the two of them out of OC'ing in the future, ain't it?

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    This is a wonderful, kick-butt, make-me-proud-to-be-American event. However, it's also a data point with other possible alternative outcomes, such as JD and Gonzo pointed out.

    I'm still not gonna start OC'ing.

    Great report, though! Thanks.
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    It's simply a law of probability.

    We (all of us) are MUCH more likely to encounter a criminal that does not want a fight. They just want the $ and to be on their way.
    (Common robber or mugger)

    There's a huge difference between robbery, armed robbery, and murder. We know this and criminals know this.

    We (all of us) are MUCH less likely to encounter a criminal that is hell bent on getting what they want and are more then willing to engage in a fight for it.
    (L.A. Bank robbers with full-auto's and body armor)

    Therefore, logically, you are MUCH more likely to deter a crime by OCing then you are to be "shot first".

    As an example to show my point:
    I believe your chances of deterring a crime are 1 in million
    I believe your chances of being shot first are 1 in a gazillion

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGreatGonzo View Post
    I think it might be more accurate to say OC may be a deterrent. In this particular case, it was. In others, it may not be. Just as concealed carry may provide a tactical advantage and it may not. I don't think you can ever say either is absolutely true in every situation 100% of the time. That is why the argument will never end.

    Is is great to see that it paid off in this, case, however. Again, kudos to the well-armed gentlemen from GA. Gonna' be awfully hard to talk the two of them out of OC'ing in the future, ain't it?

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    It's true, neither are 100%

    I never feel as though I have a tactical advantage when OCing OR CCing. I do feel my TACTICS give me an advantage though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sigmanluke View Post
    I do feel my TACTICS give me an advantage though.
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    I'm sure that the two guys OCing were very happy to find out that it (OC) kept the badguys at bay, and kept them from having to possibly pull their weapons when the robbery happened. The robbery was going to happen...............they just got discovered by the cop before they could do it.

    Edit to add: The BGs were waiting for the two OC gentlemen to leave before they robbed the Waffle House.
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    Meanwhile, conscientious Cobb County Police Officer D. Lowe had noticed suspicious cars sitting behind the restaurant in the dark and decided to investigate. He caught men with masks and rifles who had been preparing to rob the Wafflehouse.
    Almost forgot: JOB WELL DONE to Officer Lowe! See, we are not all out harassing innocent gun owners 24/7!

    Seriously, nice alert catch and good police work.
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    Yes, job well done by the officer. Top-notch SA there.

    Quote Originally Posted by dougwg View Post
    As an example to show my point:
    I believe your chances of deterring a crime are 1 in million
    I believe your chances of being shot first are 1 in a gazillion


    I'm not so good with the numbers Doug. How many millions are in a gazillion?

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