This is a discussion on Educating Wait Staff in a Virginia Restaurant within the Open Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Originally Posted by DaveH Do a little search on this issue (here and elsewhere) and Virginia law as applied. "Under the influence of alcohol" is ...
Ever case I have heard of was following conviction of one of the listed (manslaughter in violation of § 18.2-36.1, maiming in violation of § 18.2-51.4, driving while intoxicated in violation of § 18.2-266, public intoxication in violation of § 18.2-388, or driving while intoxicated in violation of § 46.2-341.24).
It has been sort of a "Oh by the way" follow-on, second-shoe-falling action -- not an initial charge unrelated to other "No-Nos."
As alway, there may be something I have missed and I am forever learning something from this forum and a few other sites & list- serves.
I'm just one root in a grassroots organization. No one should assume that I speak for the VCDL.
I am neither an attorney-at-law nor I do play one on television or on the internet. No one should assumes my opinion is legal advice.
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Shabbat (Hebrew: שַׁבָּת, Modern shabat Tiberian šabbāθ, Ashkenazi pronunciation: shabbos, Yiddish: shabes, "rest" or "cessation") is the seventh day of the Jewish week and a day of rest in Judaism. Shabbat is observed from sundown Friday until the appearance of three stars in the sky on Saturday night. The exact time, therefore, differs from week to week and from place to place, depending on the time of sunset at each location. In polar areas where there is no sunrise or sunset at certian points of the year, a different set of rules apply.
Shabbat recalls the Biblical Creation account in Genesis, describing God creating the Heavens and the Earth in six days, and resting on and sanctifying the seventh (Genesis 1:1-2:3).
Shabbat is considered a festive day, when a person is freed from the regular labors of everyday life, can contemplate the spiritual aspects of life, and can spend time with family. Traditionally, on that day three festive meals are eaten — on Shabbat-eve, at lunch, and as an end-of-Shabbat evening meal. The day is also noted for those activities which are prohibited on Shabbat prescribed by Rabbinic Judaism, but not all Jews follow these categories, and Karaite Judaism has its own traditions.
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i dont drink, so i have no idea
jersey no more.. im a texan now
By the way, I know you don't want to hear it but for real......drinking alcohol and having a gun accessible is generally not a good idea. We get on people's case for operating a vehicle while drinking.....just saying. No judging here just food for thought.
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Guns are like sex and air...its no big deal until YOU can't get any.
Here in Colorado, we can conceal/open carry into any establishment that serves alcohol as long as we are not consuming any alcoholic beverage. Our state statutes dont limit us from CC in many places at all. The big things to remember here is that you cant go into a place armed if there is physical security and electronic screening equipment, no court houses and you must lock your firearm in your vehicle if you are on K-12 school grounds. As for OC, it is legal but definetly not advised in places like the Federal Republic of Boulder or Denver.
You are lucky you can carry into restaurants that serve. Here in Ohio we can't...which pretty much takes away the point of CC for me. The times when I'd really like to be able to CC are when I go out to a restaurant in downtown Cleveland or other areas that have a history of violent crime. Damn near every restaurant I go to has a liquor license and is thus off-limits.
I'd be ok with not drinking while CCing. Or not CCing into a restaurant at the business owner's request, but not being able to CC in these places as a matter of law is very annoying.