This is a discussion on For all you campers and backpackers - Alcohol Stove within the Reference & "How To" Forum forums, part of the Related Topics category; Hey Bumper... We've been using toilet paper rolls with alcohol for years in the duck blind. When its really cold out there and you are ...
We've been using toilet paper rolls with alcohol for years in the duck blind. When its really cold out there and you are in a boat, those cans can make keep the coffee or cappuccino hot, and are great for thawing out your hands. They are simple and very convenient.
I've made the coke can burners on more than one occasion. I won a steak dinner from a hunting buddy of mine when I told him that you could make a workable stove out of any can. He doubted it, and I showed him how, after I made the bet of course. He was amazed that it could get as hot as it did.
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Its made from a can and it works.Whats not to like ?
can a soda can stove using the denaturated alchol be used inside a tent without any harmful effects ?
No. The fire still puts off carbon monoxide. Of course, there is always the one moment you're not looking and it tips over, spilling flaming alcohol all over the inside of your tent. Vent the tent and use at your own risk, though. I'd rather use my MSR for tent duty with a vent. I -LOVE- waking up at dawn when its freezing outside and making coffee on my whisperlite from the comfort of my own sleepingbag while hearing the birds start their day, too. That is TRUELY one of the best things in life.
Just a side-note tip to all of us outdoors guys. Vic reminded me.
If you use hi-temp engine or brake caliper paint and paint the outside/bottom of your cooking cup black, the cup will heat faster. It sounds dumb but it works. The difference isn't much, maybe 15-20 seconds, but it helps.
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I'm going to have to try this. I've seen it before but never bothered. Now I've got the bug. My question though is can you use the gelled stuff that comes in a can in it effectively? I'd rather not use loose liquid as a fuel(nor carry it for that matter). It's much easier to deal with in Gelled form (IMHO). Anyone tried it with the gelled stuff?
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The stove actually works by vaporizing the alcohol that is in the walls of the unit. No fuel in the walls and no ignition.
You fill with alcohol, light it and wait for the stove to warm up. Once it does the fuel in the walls will vaporize and the jets will begin to ignite. When you set your cup on the top it causes the unit to pressurize and then the jets really get a going.
The alcohol is easy and cheap to buy and use. I would think that the gel (sterno) would actually be harder. You can't pour it.
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I also keep 2 space blankets and a roll of cold weather electrical tape in the kit as well. You can use the alcohol stove on the floorboard of the car as your heat source. You cut the 2 space blankets to size and tape up over the head liner; across the windshield; over the doors and side windows; and make a curtain to separate the front from the back seat area of the car. This acts as a heat reflector taking maximum advantage of the heat produced by the stove. You Will Remain Warm Inside. Almost like a turning your car into a toaster oven.
You should crack one of the side windows about a quarter to half inch so the water vapor (carbon dioxide) that the stove produces can escape to keep the inside of the car dry.
Unlike carbon monoxide, the carbon dioxide water vapor is not poisonous and won't harm you, so if you forget to vent a window, it won't kill you. It may just get a little humid inside though. Remember you do want to keep as dry as possible in a winter survival situation.
You should try to conserve fuel as much as possible, since in a survival situation you really never know just how long you will be there. So when your car gets warm, snuff the fire out and when the edges of the can cools, place a lid on it so the alcohol does not evaporate. Then when the car gets too cold to bear, re-light your stove until you are toasty warm again. Repeat as necessary. (also remember to roll your side window back up when you snuff out your stove to conserve as much heat as possible.)
Alcohol stoves are great survival stoves for use in confined spaces because they do not emit carbon monoxide!
Remember that extreme caution must be used at all times when burning an alcohol stove inside a confined space or in a survival situation. You do not want to burn yourself or start an uncontrolled fire during a survival situation. Bad JuJu!
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RE: Carbon dioxide - you are correct that it is not poisinous, however the flame uses oxygen and that oxygen is effectively replaced by carbon dioxide. Hence, the danger is that you could theoretically be become ill or be killed by low oxygen levels. So cracking the window is impotant to allow oxygen to enter if you have a tightly sealed vehicle.
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