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Is 750 pound safe on second floor too heavy?

This is a discussion on Is 750 pound safe on second floor too heavy? within the Related Gear & Equipment forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; From personal experience, I had a 1000 lb. safe on a ground floor with a crawl space beneath and never had any problem. Bolting it ...

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    From personal experience, I had a 1000 lb. safe on a ground floor with a crawl space beneath and never had any problem. Bolting it to the studs in the wall will actually help support some of the weight. If the safe is wide enough, you could utilize two studs at either end of the safe.
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    My water heater is upstairs, across the storage unit from my safe, so I know I am ok.

    and at 36" you could put it on 3 joists if you wanted.

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    It does matter if you bolt it. The door is the heaviest part. Any settling of the floor or carpet it
    Rests on will cause it to tip when you open it. I deliver about three safes a week. I have witnessed a safe falling from away from the wall.
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    Old thread resurrection at its finest. This is 4 1/2 years old. BTW, Gwayne Welcome to the forum from Memphis. (Mogadishu on the Mississippi).
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    Quote Originally Posted by lionround View Post
    BTW, Gwayne Welcome to the forum from Memphis. (Mogadishu on the Mississippi).
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    It's not the specific weight but the pounds per square foot measurement that you need to pay attention to. It's not so much that the safe will end up on the 1st floor but that the deflection of the joists will cause plaster cracks and such on the ceiling of the 1st floor. As others have said, locate the floor joists and try to place the safe across as many as possible. They should be on 16" centers so if you locate one, you should have no trouble locating the rest. Whatever you do, don't place the safe along one joist if they run parallel to your safe. This can easily happen as there are 32 inches between 3 joists and your safe is probably not 32" deep. Ensure the safes weight is across the joists not in parallel with them.

    P.S. Don't forget to add your weight and maybe a buddies because you will be standing right there whenever you load/unload or otherwise use the safe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tmizzi View Post
    Perfect. That was what I wanted to hear. By the way ... beautiful safe you have there.
    You have not provided any information regarding the age of your house or the type of construction.

    I can tell you that most homes are built using empirical methods for design loads. We normally use code specified standard floor joist span tables that list minimum joist size and spacing for given spans. In residential sleeping areas, floors are normally designed for live loads not to exceed 30 pounds per square foot and dead loads not to exceed 20 pounds per square foot.

    Code specified Live loads are conservative. A concentrated load of 750 lb. or loaded to perhaps 1250lb., the safe's area if about 30" x 36" would be a floor area of 7.5 sq. ft.

    The corresponding distributed load would not exceed 30 psf but could cause some eccentric loading depending on placement.
    The result would possibly be some minor floor deflection but no failure of the entire floor assembly.

    It would be best to locate your safe near exterior perimeter walls, close to any bearing walls or to adjacent corridor (hallway) walls. Corridors are normal designed for slightly higher live loads, usually 40 psf minimum.
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    Did you have a court order to dig this one up...?

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    I don't have a large gun safe but I do have a small to medium personal safe. I used to have it in my bedroom closet. My local fire department recommended that I put it in the basement on the concrete floor. They said if the house catches fire, the weight of the safe will make it more likely to fall through the wood floor. If it's in the basement it won't fall. Made sense to me so I moved it to the basement.
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    I once had a girlfriend ...... but that is a different story. The building did not collapse though. Seriously, you need to find the load bearing capacity of your floor. Ask the super.
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    Ask the first floor .

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