Modified Firearm for Defensive Carry...is it lawful?

Modified Firearm for Defensive Carry...is it lawful?

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    Modified Firearm for Defensive Carry...is it lawful?

    Hello everyone, I was just wondering...Is it lawful to use modified firearm for defensive carry? By modified firearm I mean one that has a different barrel other than factory orginal, after market trigger, after market barrel rod and spring, etc. I am currently modifying my glock 23 with a new stainless steel barrel as well as changing out little stuff such as the pins, slide catch lever, etc. Am I able to use it for my own CC use?
    Remember as a rule of thumb in defensive carry...your intention is always to STOP....not to hurt, however; in a gun fight, its either me or them.....and Im sure as hell that it will NOT be me.
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    It's lawful. Whether or not it's advisable is another question. If you wind up shooting someone, each and every modification you made to the pistol will likely become an issue in court. Think about how you and your attorney would respond to that. In my opinion, any modification that enhances the safety or accuracy of the weapon shouldn't be a problem for you.

    But that's just *my* opinion.

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    Last edited by Benthic; May 28th, 2010 at 02:46 PM. Reason: Clarity

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    Im totally in agreeance with Brian. Reloads can even be an argument in court against you.

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    It is lawful.

    One of the mods that lots of people do to a gun, and lots of people think will get them in trouble if they have to use it in a defensive shooting is lightening the trigger. I don't know how a court would look on that, but I think it is pretty easy to argue that as an "accuracy" mod. The long, heavy trigger pull often makes a shooter (not the gun), less accurate. Making the trigger a little lighter, makes the shooter more accurate with that gun.
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    Is it a mod or is it just replacing worn parts?...big difference....
    Magazine <> clip - know the difference

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    In the self defense training I took in March, the instructors advised having any sort of "flashy" mods done, like fancy handgrips or gold trim may be a strike against you in court. They said the lawyers would make you out to be some sort of gun-nut who couldn't wait to fire his gun at something. Just sold my Taurus PT92AF with cherry wood grips and gold trim because of that and bought a Glock30SF for my primary carry.

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    I would refer to Mas Ayoobs (The Gun Digest Book of Concealed Carry) chapter 5, pge 69. Lighter trigger opens up the "FALSE allegation of an accidental discharge" Even revolver with exposed hammers are called into question. .." attorney fabricates a case of accidental discharge due to recklessly cocking hammer and creating hair trigger (or carrying pistol that would always fire with ("hair trigger"). This may get thrown out, it may not. But why take the chance? IMHO

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    I've looked a many laws regarding self defense and have never come up with anything that states "except if said actor uses a firearm with non-factory barrel, modified trigger, modified sights, or non-factory ammunition".
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    There have been instances where gun mods have been bought up.
    I would rather have my bone stock gun tied up as exhibt "A" than one I had spent a lot of money and time customizing.
    I have a gun that needed mods to become a great gun. I do carry it for SD and don't worry about it. None of Glocks really needed any mods, so they don't have any. In the unlikely event I ever have to use a gun for SD, I think would rather have one of my Glocks become exhibit "A", locked up in the evidence locker.
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    For sure it's lawful.
    Firearm customization is a rather huge business here in the U.S.
    Is it OK to carry a customized/modified firearm for self-defense carry?

    I hope so 'cause I do it nearly every day.

    I have better things to worry about.

    I'd be more concerned regarding ammo selection.

    Don't carry any ammo named Devastator or Annihilator

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    I'm with Stevew on this one. You can spend major $$$ on modifying or customizing your gun, and god forbid you have to use it. There is a fair chance you'll never see it again.

    Thats one reason my EDC's are bone stock.
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    IMO if it's justified, it's justified. Shouldn't matter if you used a stock gun.....


    Or one like this.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by DIABLO9489 View Post
    IMO if it's justified, it's justified. Shouldn't matter if you used a stock gun.....

    Or one like this.......
    Shouldn't for sure, but that doesn't mean won't. Lawyers will take any angle they can to sway a judge/jury to their side.
    eschew obfuscation

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    Quote Originally Posted by CopperKnight View Post
    Shouldn't for sure, but that doesn't mean won't. Lawyers will take any angle they can to sway a judge/jury to their side.
    Agreed, other than TFO's my EDC is stock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nevnut View Post
    In the self defense training I took in March, the instructors advised having any sort of "flashy" mods done, like fancy handgrips or gold trim may be a strike against you in court. They said the lawyers would make you out to be some sort of gun-nut who couldn't wait to fire his gun at something. Just sold my Taurus PT92AF with cherry wood grips and gold trim because of that and bought a Glock30SF for my primary carry.
    Wow. I carry a Glock30SF because that's what I prefer.

    But if I felt that a chrome-plated, 10mm 1911 with custom ivory grips, adorned with gold inlays of apocalyptic scripture is going to be more reliable, I wouldn't hesitate to carry it.

    LOL. Now that I'm thinking about it, I think I know what my next purchase/project is going to be.
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