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    We did some work to the interior of my house recently, new floors etc... I was considering getting a larger safe and storing it in the garage. I will get a safe that is of decent quality and good fire rating. My concern is that the garage is not heated. It can get down to below 40 in the winter. I will be using the remington dehumidifier that you can plug in to recharge.

    Should I be concerned about the extreme temp drop for extended periods of time if the weapons are kept oiled and a dehumidifier is being used?

    Also, I'll take suggestions on a good safe for under $1000 that will hold 10 or 12 long guns and has some storage for handguns and ammo as well.

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    I probably would not keep a safe (loaded with firearms) in my garage for a number of reasons, but if you have no choice, then that's what you have to do.
    When buying a safe, this may be of some assistance...tons of info here... Gun Safe Buyers' Guide
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    i would agree that if you can put the safe in the house

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    Quote Originally Posted by retsupt99 View Post
    I probably would not keep a safe (loaded with firearms) in my garage for a number of reasons, but if you have no choice, then that's what you have to do.
    When buying a safe, this may be of some assistance...tons of info here... Gun Safe Buyers' Guide

    Thanks for the link, some good info there

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    Quote Originally Posted by NY27 View Post
    We did some work to the interior of my house recently, new floors etc... I was considering getting a larger safe and storing it in the garage. I will get a safe that is of decent quality and good fire rating. My concern is that the garage is not heated. It can get down to below 40 in the winter. I will be using the remington dehumidifier that you can plug in to recharge.

    Should I be concerned about the extreme temp drop for extended periods of time if the weapons are kept oiled and a dehumidifier is being used?

    Also, I'll take suggestions on a good safe for under $1000 that will hold 10 or 12 long guns and has some storage for handguns and ammo as well.

    Thanks.
    I have this safe and like if very much. I see that the price has gone up to $1K, but it is made by Browning and private labled to Bass Pro. The comprable Browning safe is much more.

    In reading the reveiws on the BPS site, it looks like the safe is $200 to $300 cheaper in the stores. If you have a store near you, this may work to reduce the cost.
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    I also feel that keeping a safe in the garage is a bad idea. Its easier to get in and out of a garage unnoticed than it is inside the house and the extreme temperature drop may cause condensation to form on your steel weapons when extracting them from the safe and putting them into a warmer environment. Not to mention theres nothing that wakes you up more than the feel of a cold gun making contact with your skin at 4 in the morning.
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    Thanks for the info guys. I will still have a small safe in the house and my gunvault to always have at least a handgun at the ready. If I get another safe for indoors it will have to be pretty small to squeeze it into my closet.
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    Still haven't found what I am looking for. Was considering getting a small wall safe to put between the studs in my closet. I want to get one that is large enough for 1or 2 long guns. Down the road I can get a larger safe to keep in the basement. But every wall safe that I find on the internet appears to be more of a gun cabinet (cheap locking mechanism). I want one that has the larger bolt in at least 3 horizontal positions. Does such a beast exist? Anyone have one that they can recommend? Fireproof?

    Sorry for bringing an old post to life. Thanks again!
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    how many $$$ worth of guns are we talkin here?? no need to spend $2000 to protect $1000 worth of guns, you say down the road you may get one for the basement, that would be way bettter than in a garage

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    Read post #7. I'm not going to put it in the garage. I'm going to put one in the closet that leaves access to an AR and a 12 guage. Probably $1500-$1700 worth of gear in total. I'm concerned about keeping it out of the hands of my children and bad guys when I'm not home. I'm not worried about losing the value of the weapons as much as I am worried about a bad guy with an AR, 6 mags and a 12 guage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NY27 View Post
    Still haven't found what I am looking for. Was considering getting a small wall safe to put between the studs in my closet. I want to get one that is large enough for 1or 2 long guns. Down the road I can get a larger safe to keep in the basement. But every wall safe that I find on the internet appears to be more of a gun cabinet (cheap locking mechanism). I want one that has the larger bolt in at least 3 horizontal positions. Does such a beast exist? Anyone have one that they can recommend? Fireproof?

    Sorry for bringing an old post to life. Thanks again!
    I'm glad you brought this back up. I've been kicking around geting a safe, too. I have no idea how I would get it into my house though, let alone upstairs into my bedroom. I'm assuming they have to weigh a lot to work, otherwise they could be carried out as easily as they were carried in, with the exception of the guns inside. I'll have to follow that link when I get to work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PAcanis View Post
    I'm glad you brought this back up. I've been kicking around geting a safe, too. I have no idea how I would get it into my house though, let alone upstairs into my bedroom. I'm assuming they have to weigh a lot to work, otherwise they could be carried out as easily as they were carried in, with the exception of the guns inside. I'll have to follow that link when I get to work.
    They are a bear to get up steps if they are heavy. You can bolt them to the wall and floor to help prevent removal by bad guys. If a bad guy wants something bad enough and has the time, he will get it. We must try our best to deter.

    I'm just looking for a wall safe to mount to the studs for now. I'll get a larger safe down the road. I guess no one on here has a wall safe that has bolts instead of the cheap locks.
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    The link was helpful. I take it the one mentioned at Sam's Club was considered "good"? Kind of like a consumer best buy?
    I didn't read where the through bolts or lags would affect fire rating though, but you would certainly think they would. They do in everything else.
    And let's face it, if the burglars want the guns they will take the guns. Unless you spend thousands of dollars on a safe and make it as close to impossible to break into or carry out as you can. And thousands of dollars is way more than the added insurance costs for the guns I have. None is really irreplaceable, with the exception of my P-38. It seems like an "affordable" safe will do exactly as you say, deter the theft. Deter until what? Until I get back home and have to deal with a burglary in progress myself? lol
    I should mention that my only concern is theft, not children or psycho girlfriends ;^)

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    Quote Originally Posted by retsupt99 View Post
    I probably would not keep a safe (loaded with firearms) in my garage for a number of reasons, but if you have no choice, then that's what you have to do.
    When buying a safe, this may be of some assistance...tons of info here... Gun Safe Buyers' Guide

    Good info. Thanks!

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    Well, I couldn't find a good wall safe. But Cabela's had a sale. So I took a ride with two buddies in one of their pick ups. I got a Liberty 25 gun safe. It is rated for 1200 for 45 mins. It was pretty big so I decided to put it in the basement. 565 lbs is not fun to get down steps. We slid it on it's side (in cardboard) with me and one guy on the bottom and the other guy guiding it from the top. Once that thing had all of it's weight coming down, I said to myself, "This was a mistake." Heavy is not the word. We were gonna use the handtruck, but I didn't think that the steps would handle all of that direct weight. And I had just started to feel sick that afternoon from a bug that I caught from the kids.

    Thankfully, it made it down in one piece and no one gut hurt. At least I don't have to worry about any bad guys getting this safe out of my house.
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