September 11th, 2006 01:55 PM
Lanyards and others attachments for lights
LANYARDS AND OTHERS ATTACHMENTS FOR LIGHTS
When a flashlight is used with a pistol, there comes a time when the flashlight should be put away (or let go of) to use your hand to open doors, change magazines, etc.
Lanyards, (as pioneered by Surefire), are a way to keep the light handy out of the way while you perform the reload or open the door.
But they are others systems that work just as well or better, and are what I will explore in this short post, and hopefully leave the door open for some of the members to come up with ideas that will help in improving the use of the light with the pistol.
One of the most recent ones and a great idea is the Thunder Ranch system of the Tiger ring, marketed with one of the Streamlights T-2 in LED form. It is a great system to operate a light.(Also called the Gabe Suarez ring as it is the possible originator)
The picture shows my home-brewed Tiger rings placed on a Streamlight TL-3 and in a Surefire C-3, two of my favorites lights to use with my .45 because of the 200 lumens they output (the C-3 has the P-91 lamp).
I am a contrary old man that is set to have 200 lumens as a minimum for his ideal tactical light. I acknowledge that many others are happy with their 65 lumens lights, but for me a truly blinding light starts at 200 lumens and up.
The Tiger rings placed on your thumb will, with a quick flip of the hand, place your light out of the way on the back of you hand, and after the magazine change, another quick flip will replace it in its proper position.
I like it better than the lanyard for many situations.
The Surefire attachment on the end of the lanyard is like a carabineer clip; it has opened for me a number of times, and for that reason I recommend that the attachment should be done directly to the lanyard thru the ring, as shown on this picture of the Surefire M-6.
For use with the bigger Police lights, I have come out with a Quick Detach Sling Swivel that I have supplied to some of the customers that have bought my MAG 951 II Megalight.
That swivel can be used in a number of ways, one of them being with a sling that goes across your body and maintains the light at the side of your body. It can be just let go of your hand and will be at your side ready to be grasped again in a split second. The length of the sling is adjusted so when your hand closes on the light, your finger will be on the switch.
Another variation is a short lanyard, attached either to the swivel or to the small nub for the swivel. Such nubs come in handy sometimes to break glass (or even noses).
Short straps for hanging can be also attached to spare swivels to be quickly replaced for when the lights is going to be stored hanging from a nail by the wall.
One system I came up with years ago is to use when hunting (but can be also adapted to your tactical games) is a baseball cap with a Velcro sewn on top and the matching female Velcro stuck to the light. When is time to put the light away, but having it still provide illumination to the target area, you just place it on the top of your head to be held by the Velcro.
I just walk the woods in route to my tree stand with such arrangement that leaves my two hands to hold my rifle at the ready; handy when loading the gun as the light is directed to where I am looking.
Here is a picture to illustrate the system.
If some of the members have ideas, they are welcome to post them here so we all can benefit from them, anything that can be made the use of a flashlight friendlier and better adapted to be use with the pistol will be really appreciated.
black bear 84
September 11th, 2006 03:34 PM
Some good thoughts there
Like the velcro/cap notion - could well exploit that nicely!
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September 11th, 2006 03:43 PM
If you draw both your handgun and flashlight at the same time, start shooting at multiple threats and reloading time comes up (or picking up some thing from the ground real quick/etc...); how in the hell do you put your hand/finger through a lanyard/ring/etc without geting killed?
I just stick my flashlight under my dominant side arm pit and do the reload,open door, pick whatever up, etc... I've never droped the flashlight yet. Any one else using this technique? Any cons in doing it?
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September 11th, 2006 04:44 PM
hangs around my neck with a lanyard. Easy to grab or let go...whatever! Works for me...
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September 11th, 2006 05:16 PM
You need to be aware that the Surefire lanyards are designed with at least two break-away points so that if someone grabs your light, you can escape.
Unless the finger loop has break points, it will likely be your finger that breaks if someone grabs it.
September 11th, 2006 05:20 PM
I only have on light that has a functional lanyard on it.
I use it more to hold onto than anything. I hold onto it with my pinky and ring finger and use my index, middle, and thumb to do whatever else I need done. It seems to work well for me, although I have never tried the tiger ring. I've read about it and discussed it for sometime but never actually tried it. I'll have to stop by the hardware store and get a good sized o-ring to play with.
September 11th, 2006 09:37 PM
Ask your wife for one of her hair ties and attach it with a small ring to the clip, (As in my picture)
Flipping the light to the back of the hand will permit quick reloads, when you are done another flip, and the light is back on your hand.
September 12th, 2006 11:41 PM
I had an unfortunate incedent occur of the weekend and this product http://www.section8tactical.com/urd.htm sold on www.rogueelite.net came in handy.
Long story, but I recently had to use it in a crisis situation and was able to carry my Sig 239, and a Surefire G2 to break down two doors, 2 windows and have the ability talk on a cell phone while trying to secure a home.
For $15 it's worth it...would never have been able to do what I did without it.
Last edited by Jamie Young; September 12th, 2006 at 11:52 PM.
September 13th, 2006 09:05 AM
I have a very similar setup that I learned from Gabe as well. The ring is on the finger when the light it drawn. Should anything/anyone grab the light, the ring is big enough that it will slip right off your finger.
Originally Posted by Tangle
September 18th, 2006 06:41 PM
That is the reason why my favorite is the hair tie, it will streech if pulled and will slip from your finger.
September 18th, 2006 07:49 PM
I buy packs of hair ties and use up packs of hair ties, and never once I thought about how efficient they would be for my light.
Here's my Streamlight Scorpion house light with neck/wrist lanyard, and my Surefire E2E that I keep in my purse. I broke the flimsy clip on the E2E and replaced it with the beefy one by tying it on with paracord and adding a finger loop.
I'm going to find a hair tie....
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