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Another vote for The Belt man! I bought one with shark skin several years ago and it still looks great and holds anything I carry perfectly. I was so impressed with it that I ordered another one in plain black to replace the useless Gall's duty belt we're issued at work.
I really don't notice my G23 in an OWB holster at all since the belt anchors it solid. Some things are just worth what you pay for them.
Horse Hide, from The Belt Man, still running strong for me after 3+ years. Scratched up, finish worn. Still functional and was worth the $120+ back then.
When looking at the 5.11 belts, remember that the flimsy TDU belts that are dirt cheap are for holding up your pants, not your pants and a holster with a gun in it. The 5.11 Operator belt is 1.75" with a polymer insert that is better suited for carrying purposes. They are however, made in China. For me, I like the Wilderness Tactical 1.75" CSM Instructor belt, which is made in the USA and is roughly the same price as the 5.11 china made belts.
Finally got me a Bullhide Gun Belt and man was I impressed. Both of my old biker belts were thin and so soft worn after 10 plus years of use. My IWB Galco holster kept flipping out of my inside waste band afew time, thats one reason I never carried with one in the pipe.
Problem solved!!
As others have said you don't know what you were missing till you have it! Love my Beltman bullhide. Great looking and I am glad my dad didn't have one when I was a little terror, may have killed me.
This. So much this. You cannot go wrong with Belt Man.Quote:
Originally Posted by jwhite75
You really hit on the key points to this issue. The belt/holster combo are a part of a system. As with any system, its only as good as its weakest link. $65 for a belt isn't really that much money. Heck, you can give that for a "Docker" belt that won't perform anywhere near to the same degree as your gun-belt. If you shop at some of the finer stores, you can't even buy a belt for $65.Quote:
Originally Posted by Orangeman
I also have a Crossbreed belt. I was like you at first and was a bit skeptical of gun-belts that cost so much money. As soon as I received mine, however, I could immediately tell that it is a quality product. I really don't mind spending a little more if I know I'm getting a true quality product.
As mentioned somewhere eles, a quality belt will last for years. When something holds up for a length of time, it goes from being expensive to being a bargain - in the long-run.
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Originally Posted by zacii
It really comes down to "perceived value", doesn't it? We often hear people say that they carry a gun because they want to protect their family. They will put hours into researching the gun and shopping for it. They will then go and buy up boxes and boxes of ammo and spend time at the range to get a feel for the gun and to see if its going to run properly. They put in a considerable amount of time and money into their gear so that they can have some protection and then all of a sudden when it comes to properly storing their weapon, they want to skimp. Like you said, they'll spend $1,000 on a pistol but won't consider spending 10% of that for a holster and a belt, etc.
Something else you'll see some people do; instead of buying a good product up front, they'll buy a lot of cheap ones. This can go for anything; fishing rods & reels, knives and even cars. I've seen a guy that could have had a good knife for what he gave for a bunch of cheap ones that will never carry a proper edge - nevertheless retain one. To each, his own. If you would rather have 5 cheap knives instead of one good one that will do what a knife is supposed to do, then have at it.
Going by the way of the cheap is alluring though. I've come close to doing this with a T-Maxx (remote control nitro monster truck). Even if someone gives an old one to you, if you aren't careful, you'll have the cost of a new one in your old one by the time you fix/trick it out. Sometimes its just more economical to spend a little more up front as opposed to spending your money, via nickel and dime-ing, etc.
+1 on this. I just picked up a 5.11 Tactical Trainer Belt - 1.5". It is awesome. I really love the velcro, as I can "fine tune" adjust the tension for different pairs of pants.
I got my Bull belt, single layer creased leather, from Daltecforce.com, today. The leather is a bit thicker than 1/4", and stiff. It is 1-1/2" wide, and is great. I used their sizing method, 4" larger than your pants size. It fits well. I couldn't be happier for less than $50 and free shipping. I ordered it last Wednesday, and Monday, it is here.
Got this 1 1/2 " belt from D.M. Bullard last week. Little pricey, but I think it will last a long time.
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I don't buy anything without seeing it and feeling it first. You can find good and bad reviews for pretty much any gun belt on the market, and each person has an opinion about what they want from a product. I've made the mistake of ordering online and getting cheap knock-off brands. I want to see and feel the quality for myself before spending my husband's hard earned cash!Quote:
Originally Posted by ghost tracker
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Originally Posted by LaDanah26
Particularly with clothing, and most particularly with tools that are employed to help save our lives. Amen to that.
I wear an Atlas belt by Volund Gear Works. In 1.5" it's a little stiffer than a wilderness but not as bulky as an Ares Cobra belt. Made up of 1 layer of 1.5" SCUBA sandwiched between 2 layers of same size nylon webbing and a trim band of 1" nylon webbing with 5 stitch, uses an ITW Nexus G-Hook. It's so light and perfect rigidity.
Had mine done up in olive drab with black trim for $45
Volund Gearworks
I just put my order in for an Ares Gear Ranger belt. I've put off buying a gun belt for a while because a P238 doesn't exactly strain any belts that I have. But the new belt should allow me to carry something heavier in the winter more comfortably.
Tactical Gear, Tactical Equipment, Duty Belts, Slings, USA
Wilderness 5-stich belt! Works like a charm.
