purchased safe, need advise

purchased safe, need advise

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    Well, I got what I believe was a great deal at Cabela's today in PA. Bought a Cabela's branded Liberty Safe - Lincoln model (25 Cubic feet W30" x H60.5" X D24.5" @ 775 or 800 lbs (depending on the liberty or cabelas marketing) ) electronic keypad, dehumidifier thrown in. The guy who sold it to me was a Liberty employee. Got the Liberty warranty with it. Just Cabela's name on front. Cabelas - Silver Series, Liberty - Lincoln series.

    My neighbor and I just barely got it off my pickup and into my garage (thanks to the motorcycle jack for assistance).

    Now I have to get it installed. I have an office on 2nd floor of a typical residential house. I also have a walk-out basement. I would like to have it installed in my office in the closet, my wife wants it in the basement because she is concerned of the weight on the floor.

    There is no way I w/ 3 -4 of my friends could get it up to the second floor, maybe the basement. So it looks like I will have to get safe movers/installers.

    (1) Is there a way to have the flooring "re-inforced" / strenghened to handle an 800 lb safe filled w/ guns and ammo? Or do I have to install it in basement on concrete flooring (above planks to keep out moisture (did some searching on the forum)

    (2) Can bolting the safe down be done separate to the "re-inforcing" ? Planning on getting carpeting and would not bolt down until after new carpet put in.

    (3) Any idea of cost for a company to move the safe from my garage to my 2nd floor or basement? Also, Cost to do the re-inforcing? Just looking for a rough order of magnitude.

    (4) any recommendation for who to call to do the install in Eastern PA (Lehigh Valley area) would be appreciated.

    Thanks!


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    That would represent some major floor loading for sure. You would need to know how your joists were laid out and where they were ''picked up'' before applying so much weight.

    If by luck the closet coincided with a close-by load bearing wall beneath then it could work. Reinforcement tho usually means a jack/prop set below onto a firm base - and that probably would not sit well with 'Mrs'

    Cost of moving probably minimum $100 - tho not sure where you'd go to get help - maybe ask around removal firms for a specialist's name. Can be done with a few fit guys but - dangerous to do unless rehearsed and planned 100%. The needed beer might cost more than a professional

    Sounds like basement would be better bet for load aspects. My safe has two holes in base which were used initially to tether it to pallette - use those now to take two large lag bolts into floor. You would probably have to plan in advance thru measurement etc for securing to concrete - so as to preinstall two expanding bolt units. Air space needed under need be quite minimal, so pack off by just by say, 3/4" slats.

    It's a major excercize for sure but - once done well worth it. Do investigate your 2nd floor construction.
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    "jack/prop set" I am not mechanically inclined, I take it that this would change the appearance of the floor below. If that is the case, this might be a non-starter. Ugh!

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    Yep - the jack is made out of thick walled steel - approx 3" dia - and two sections telescope, with flat plates top and bottom.

    Center section outer has a coarse square thread and a rotating threaded ''nut'' with a short bar attached. The inner has holes for steel cross peg.

    It is set up close to needed length then pin put thru holes and ''nut'' rotated to impinge on same while then rotating to lengthen the whole deal until load taken up.

    Non-starter? - almost for sure on first floor LOL.
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    Talk to a builder in your area, or his favorite structural engineer; if you are near a wall, it is at least likely able to take the weight without a column.

    I once "helped" bring a safe of that weight upstairs, (no turnaround), with four others. (I watched intently, the other guys were big). We taped, (nylon reinforced tape running the direction of the pull), a very heavy cardboard "skid" under its side, and we used a long heavy strap with two guys on top, and two pushers.

    Piece of cake. (?)... (!) No, not really!!! It was a b***h!. But doable.
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    I'll have to call an expert on the weight support. If it goes in the basement (walk-out, thank goodness), then I'll have some of my buddies help me wheel it in. If it goes upstairs, it will be a job for the pros.

    I'm a big guy and weightlifter. I've moved many people/things. right now everyone, including me, is much older and less able to move heavy weights. Looks like I have many favors I can't call in, they all expired.

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