Non lethal defensive weapon in edc gear?

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    Non lethal defensive weapon in edc gear?

    Hey gang, i was just wondered if anybody carries or has thought about adding a non lethal defensive weapon to your edc gear. I myself always carry a Smith&Wesson tactical pen with a LED flashlight on the other end.

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    Not to be contrary, what makes you believe these tactical pens are non-lethal ? Pepper spray is non-lethal, but a pointed object ? Shove this into someone's body i.e., throat and I would think it could be very lethal. Just my thoughts, other may think otherwise.

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    I carry a non lethal weapon that we all carry on a daily basis........ my car keys. While not the most impressive weapon, I have a large bundle of keys on a very heavy lanyard that when swung hits like beast. I actually have several heavy metal key fobs just for this. My key chain will split a medium apple in half with ease.

    I also carry a flashlight with a contact bezel, a pocket knife of no specific intent, and loose change.
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    Quote Originally Posted by USM1976 View Post
    Not to be contrary, what makes you believe these tactical pens are non-lethal ? Pepper spray is non-lethal, but a pointed object ? Shove this into someone's body i.e., throat and I would think it could be very lethal. Just my thoughts, other may think otherwise.
    Very good point and yes it could be used as a lethal weapon like you said hence jamming into certain body parts could be fatal so i guess its not a justified non lethal device

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taurahe View Post
    I carry a non lethal weapon that we all carry on a daily basis........ my car keys. While not the most impressive weapon, I have a large bundle of keys on a very heavy lanyard that when swung hits like beast. I actually have several heavy metal key fobs just for this. My key chain will split a medium apple in half with ease.

    I also carry a flashlight with a contact bezel, a pocket knife of no specific intent, and loose change.
    I try to keep my key chain size small lol hate bulky key chains but could be very useful

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    Non lethal defensive weapon in edc gear?

    I always carry OC spray. The reasons ?
    1. dogs
    2. Multiple unarmed opponents. In the force continuum most law enforcement agencies use , before punching and kicking are disabling non lethal weapons such as Tasers and OC. It can be used quickly on multiple assailants. My logic is spray and get away and then use greater force if needed. Knives while very effective in even groups at incapacitation my state has "allowed" us only 3 inch blades.




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    Maybe i need to pick me up some OC spray then

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    Keys do a number on eyeballs, if judiciously aimed. Not exactly lethal, but can be effective.

    Occasionally, I've carried spray in addition to my standard load-out.

    Occasionally, I've carried a cane or walking stick, depending where I'm going (ie, traveling through the sieve that strips me of my standard weaponry).
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    Not to nit pick but I have escorted the body of an Inmate who succumbed after being gassed. No I didn't gas him as I assured others "I arrived in time to escort the body and make sure the Thanksgiving Day potluck went off on schedule." Just about anything that can disable or deter can kill if the subject has a particular weakness. I've been looking into taser flash lights and the legalities of walking stick defense in Nevada.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tdave View Post
    Not to nit pick but I have escorted the body of an Inmate who succumbed after being gassed. No I didn't gas him as I assured others "I arrived in time to escort the body and make sure the Thanksgiving Day potluck went off on schedule." Just about anything that can disable or deter can kill if the subject has a particular weakness. I've been looking into taser flash lights and the legalities of walking stick defense in Nevada.
    Agreed. However you have to escort inmates and have to restrain and control. I only want to get away or get a tactical advantage.


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    Smaller can of Bear Spray. Goes thirty feet....multiple shots and will drop a man in a heartbeat. Started carrying one in the truck after seeing the results of an accidental spraying of a human during a Black Bear encounter at a remote campsite. The gal using the Bear Spray missed the bear and hit the packer. Dropped him like a rock. Bear still got the cake that had just been baked in the dutch oven.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tdave View Post
    Not to nit pick but I have escorted the body of an Inmate who succumbed after being gassed. No I didn't gas him as I assured others "I arrived in time to escort the body and make sure the Thanksgiving Day potluck went off on schedule." Just about anything that can disable or deter can kill if the subject has a particular weakness. I've been looking into taser flash lights and the legalities of walking stick defense in Nevada.
    Well, to be fair, that's death due to heart condition or whatever, not death due to spray. Folks who can't take the heat shouldn't deliberately create fire and then stand in it, irrespective of the non-lethal (or lethal) methods used by the would-be victims to repel them. Nit picking, I suppose, but I'd be willing to bet it's far closer to the truth than the typical headline-style reaction to someone keeling over afterwards.
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    Surefire flashlight. You can't shoot what you can't see, plus it makes a good pummeler.
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    Quote Originally Posted by maxwell97 View Post
    Surefire flashlight. You can't shoot what you can't see, plus it makes a good pummeler.
    Yep lol true! I carry a Streamlight Microstream. Very bright affordable flashlight. Only downside its on the small side and does not have bevveled or cranulated edge at which to plow into a attackers face lol

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