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This is a discussion on 1,000 rounds for a few dollars...Air Rifles Rock! within the Related Gear & Equipment forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; I caught the tail end of an air-gun show last night and didn't pay it a lot of mind until a commercial came on. It ...
I caught the tail end of an air-gun show last night and didn't pay it a lot of mind until a commercial came on. It compared the cost of pellets to the cost of ammo. It showed a box of ammo (50) and the cost - $18.00. It then showed the cost of a container of pellets (500), for only a few dollars. One thousand pellets can provide a lot of practice for only a few dollars ($10 or so?).
My brother got a Mossberg AR style .22 rifle with a red/green dot optic in a horse trade (literally) recently and we've been trying it out in the back yard for the past couple of weeks. I had a half-full box of Federal Value-Pack .22s that I had left-over from a time when they were readily available (remember those days?). We've been having a ball shooting "Dirty Birds". When the Federals ran out, we cracked open a white box of Winchesters I bought right before Sandy Hook. I've been wanting to get some of the 3-D zombie targets and get a considerable amount of shooting in this fall but with the limited availability of of .22s, 5.56 and handgun ammo, it doesn't look like its going to happen.
After I watched the commercial that compared the cost of pellets to ammo and considering the amount of target practice/plinking I've been without over ammo availability, I have to admit that an airgun is starting to look like a real attractive alternative to me. I looked up some videos last night on YouTube and found some interesting videos. There was a guy that had a big bore air rifle and he actually killed a hog that wieghed around 200 lbs. or so. Other guys with less powerful guns were easily taking out rats, pigeons, chipmunks, etc. that were wreaking havoc on farmers and home owners. These guns can also take out squirrels and rabbits the same as a .22 firearm will.
I'm not ever going to give my firearms up for air guns but I think there's a case to be made for acquiring a quality rifle like an RWS, Gamo or Benjamin, etc. We sometimes talk about gear that we'd like to have in a SHTF situation and I'm thinking if room allows, a quality air rifle should be available as well. A rabbit in hard times can make for a nice meal and the cost of a pellet makes this a meal on the extreme cheap. Save the .22s for matters when the pellets won't suffice.
What do you think? Would you consider having an air rifle for plinking, practice, and among your prepping gear? A quality air-rifle can be expensive, as much or more than a .22 rifle and even cost as much as a deer rifle depending on how deep you get into it. That's obviously a con but with proper maintenance and care, I'm sure it would last for years and years to come.
Do you have an air rifle in .177 or .22 that's shooting 800-1,000 fps? What has been your experience with it?
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Air rifles in the larger caliber can be serious defensive weapons. Certainly not as good as modern firearms with the rapid reload capability, but in a hunting situation they can be invaluable.
I had a Crossman pump rifle and a pistol when I was a kid. One day I ran out of BB's and pellets, and dug into my Dads stash of set screws and small bolts. Anything that fit into that bore was fair game and some of the set screws shot amazing well. They were accurate and capable of taking Robins, Bluejays and a squirrel at around 12 yards. Having one in a bugout stash wouldn't be a bad idea.
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HotGuns reminded me that my first airgun was a Crosman 766 pump with a rifled barrel that was responsible for keeping rabbits out of my garden and chipmunks out of my railroad tie retaining walls 30+ years ago. I shot it until it literally fell apart, but along the way I discovered some accurate pellets that took good advantage of that rifled barrel.
After the Crosman died, I bought an RWS 34 and scoped it. This is a beginner-class 'serious' air rifle, with 850+ ft/sec capability depending on the pellet. This gun was responsible for a LOT of squirrels and a number of crows in my CT back yard, but it's not a smooth action and one that could benefit from tuning by an airgun pro.
After I moved out to AZ, I stepped up to a Beeman/Weihrauch R9, which was a step up in power and also has an adjustable trigger. This is the most accurate gun I own, but it's still at the low end of what's out there for 'serious' air rifles. And, frankly, it's too powerful for my limited yard here. It borders on 1000 ft/sec in .177, with about 12 ft-lb of energy. Cocking force is substantial and the noise level is on a par with a .22 Short.
For simple fun and occasional pest elimination, you are better served with a gun in the 7-8 foot-pound energy range, which translates into 700 ft/sec in .177 caliber. Cocking force is modest and the sound is all from the spring - almost no report from the muzzle. The Beeman R7 is in this range, and it's not only plenty accurate, it's also manageable by shooters who aren't hairy-chested brutes. I only pick the Beemans since I'm familiar with their product line. For springers, I'd steer well clear of anything made in China, and suggest perhaps the Gamo, which I believe is made in Spain.
Here are two sites that offer some really good advice. In particular, the Airguns of Arizona guys are super helpful and quite serious about their guns. Tell 'em what you want to do and your price range, and they'll make some solid recommendations.
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Airguns of Arizona - Precision Air Rifles, Airgun, Pistols, Pellets
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I've been using air guns for target practice for decades now. Ive got a nice competition style target pistol and rifle in .177 cal. With them I can spend a relaxed half hour in the evenings practicing without the hassle and expence of lugging guns and ammo over to the local range, paying their fees, finding and buying ammi to replace what I shot, etc.
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I have a mess of them and have been shooting them since a was a boy. Sheridan Blue Streak, and a Silver, Crossaman .22 Co2, Binjamine .22 cO2 1911 (with blow back), and a 1450fps Gamo single break. I've killed raccoons with the Blue Streak. People have been hunting and practicing with them for a century.
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