Safes for home. Mainly to keep a toddler out.

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    Safes for home. Mainly to keep a toddler out.

    I need to know what kinds of Safes are good for keeping out toddlers. I have a 18mnth old (who will be learning about gun safety and control when old enough) who loves playing with everything. Now I have been looking at the Burska biometric finger print safes to put under my night stand. The only time I will need the safe is at night. I cannot bolt to the floor because I rent a house. I just need something safe for night keeping but easy enough to access if someone broke in. The gun will be on me all other times so I am not worried about it being stolen in the event of a break in when I am not home. Size needs to fit a Glock 27 2mags and cleaning equipment. Thanks for any help! Merry Christmas and happy holidays.
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    Safes for home. Mainly to keep a toddler out.

    Biometrics can have reliability issues (as well as dead batteries). Combination safes can be cumbersome in the dark and might be difficult to do under stress. Electronic keypad safes are pretty quick and easy but still have battery issues that might burn you in an emergency. Keyed cabinets require you to protect your children from the key and can be difficult in the dark under stress. The simplex cabinets and pistol boxes are the best option in my opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyndsey View Post
    I need to know what kinds of Safes are good for keeping out toddlers. I have a 18mnth old (who will be learning about gun safety and control when old enough) who loves playing with everything. Now I have been looking at the Burska biometric finger print safes to put under my night stand. The only time I will need the safe is at night. I cannot bolt to the floor because I rent a house. I just need something safe for night keeping but easy enough to access if someone broke in. The gun will be on me all other times so I am not worried about it being stolen in the event of a break in when I am not home. Size needs to fit a Glock 27 2mags and cleaning equipment. Thanks for any help! Merry Christmas and happy holidays.
    I have a gun vault brand lockbox for the sole purpose of keeping my nightstand gun safe from my now 2 year old.

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    MODS! This is a good thread! We have many 'Safe' related threads.

    May I very politely petition that we start a 'Safety' part of the DC forum that captures not only talking about SAFES and Fire Protection.... yudda, yudda, but the other things we should talk about for safety?

    Heck, at this point, what DC sponsors $$$$$$$ sell safes (OK, I went a little beyond the pier on that one).

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    also this, not a safe but rather a covert safety device. Ultimate Gun Safety Device- fast- easy- inexpensive
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    recently did a bunch of research on quick access safes because a friends brother in law has two young daughters.

    many are worthless even to keep a child out. most can be defeated by an adult with ease.

    electrics can fail you when you need it most, the cheap key lock override is a major weak point.

    FAS1 SAFE, LLC mechanical ones are less prone to failures but allows infinite tries and with only five button there are not that many combinations. that said, i have read good reviews on this company.

    for bio metric this one had the best review by folks who hack safes. LockSAF Digital-Swipe Biometric Safe ? LockSAF Products

    Safe to Armed in Seconds: A Study of Epic Fails of Popular Gun Safes on Vimeo warning, not PG13, some minor use of swear words.
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    For the budget minded, here's one:

    In Car Gun Lockers

    These are keyed, simple, lightweight, and prevent casual and curious opening. It meets your criteria without digital or optical pads, combos and the like. They will not survive an assault by a determined adult, but that was not in your criteria.

    I have several for cars, travel, TSA and the like. Mine are ALL keyed the same.
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    Just a reminder that while a combination lock with 5 buttons allows for a very limited number of choices that can be brute forced, you're supposed to change your passwords/combinations regularly. Everyone does that, I assume. One question. Do these electronic combination safes lock you out after a certain number of failures?
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    For what you need about any cheap lock box will work. My wife uses one of the safes that have the 4 push buttons to store her's in as she can't carry every day but likes to have her revolver by the bed but secured so the grand kids can't get to it.

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    I use a stack on pistol safe. Its just a metal box, but it keeps the prying eyes and froggy hands away, exactly what I need it to do. It uses a 12 digit keypad and can use up to a 10 digit password I think. If the batteries fail, it is unlockable with a key. I dont need fast access, that it what the gun beside the bed is for, but it does keep them locked up when I am gone or my god children come visit.
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    Been useing biometric on nightstand for years no problems works great. Hear about all kinds of problems but those are from people who never used them. They work great
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    I recommend to students in my CCW classes that they find a safe with the following features at minimum:
    -Programmable electronic access. Change the code and the batteries at time changes, just like you do your smoke detector batteries.
    -Key lock over-ride in case you lose the code or batteries die. Keep the key locked up elsewhere so kids cannot find it.
    -Motion sensitive tamper alarm. If you want it, you will have to pry it off the floor before the police arrive and run down the street with a 120 decibel alarm going off.
    -Sleep mode. Locks out after several unsuccessful attempts.
    -Bolts securely to a floor or wall stud.

    The DAC SportSafe is one option, I am sure there are plenty of others.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yz9890 View Post
    Biometrics can have reliability issues (as well as dead batteries). Combination safes can be cumbersome in the dark and might be difficult to do under stress. Electronic keypad safes are pretty quick and easy but still have battery issues that might burn you in an emergency. Keyed cabinets require you to protect your children from the key and can be difficult in the dark under stress. The simplex cabinets and pistol boxes are the best option in my opinion.
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    all of the electronic lock safes I've seen have a key, too. If the electronics fail, the key still works just fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GlassWolf View Post
    all of the electronic lock safes I've seen have a key, too. If the electronics fail, the key still works just fine.
    Yes but where's the key? I can tell you that when I was a kid, I knew where everything in our house was. I knew what my dad left in his winter coat pockets in the attic and what my mother left inside the bowls in the back of the china cabinet. There's no place safe from a 9yr old that'll also provide ready access in an emergency unless your wear it. And doing that introduces too much potential for human error for me.

    The keys to my cousins gun cabinet are with his car keys that he leaves on the kitchen counter when he's home.

    Our kids play at my house.
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