I got a sigtac gear rebate with my sig purchase and one of the things I got was a sigtac vest. Now I know what you are thinking, vests suck and everyone knows you are carrying if you are wearing one. I'm with you that I'm not much on most vests and gun people will guess that you are carrying, but by far most people are clueless. Anyway, I got the vest and figured I would sell it on fleabay or something. I first got it and it seemed stiff and heavy and didn't think there was any way I would like it. I was wrong. I like this vest a lot and the wife wants me to get another of a different color. It's long, has zippers on the sides so you can get into your pants pockets, has lots of pockets and softened up when I wore it. It has a gun pocket, but it prints big time with my p220 carry elite. I just carry iwb and wear the vest.