They are illegal here.
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In Ky I can carry all kinds of weapons. I can see where brass knuckles and pepper spray could become an alternative. If I find myself in a confrontation with someone that has no visible weapon that is my size or smaller, I'd do anything I could to keep from using my gun. Anyone carry brass knuckles? Any reason not to carry it? I know alot of states they are illegal. In states where you can't carry them, does anyone know if they can be locked in a box if traveling through their state? Kinda hard to find info on it. How many of your states allow them?
So great , from your post i presume that includes being an adult and walking off not to be in the fight in the first place . That sir is a fine start on a responsible person .If I find myself in a confrontation with someone that has no visible weapon that is my size or smaller, I'd do anything I could to keep from using my gun.
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Most states classify brass knuckles and blackjacks as weapons, and they have this classification within their own paragraph or citation -- if you're in a state where you can carry any "weapon," then in theory you could carry brass knuckles. However, the state will consider them exactly the same as a firearm if you use them. They are well beyond using pepper spray or a flashlight (or whatever else, like a cane).
I'm not an attorney and I'd suggest you check with one in your area for specifics, but part of my job is studying state weapon and firearm laws, so I'm reasonably versed in these kinds of things.
Brass knuckles could definately be considered lethal force. If I'm going to use lethal force the brass knuckles woulnd't be my first choice. I also don't think they are as useful a tool and a collapsible baton, which is still illegal here in MI anyway. Carry pepper spray and your gun, but do as redneck says and just walk away first.
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Never bring a knife to a gun fight, much less brass knuckles. There was a post here a few weeks ago talking about a guy that got in a fist fight while he was carrying and I think the overwhelming opinion was that there is no way you should get in a physical altercation while carrying. Too much chance of losing possesion of your CCW or it becoming exposed and needlessly escalating the situtation. If you are carrying and you get in a fight, there is already at least one gun involved, yours. Hopefully, you can walk away or avoid the situation completely, but I would say using brass knuckles on an apparently unarmed man is already escalating the situation. I know for a fact that if a guy is coming at me with brass knuckles I am definitely going to use force to stop that threat, up to and including deadly force.
Illegal in Texas IIRC.
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On the subject of brass knuckles, what role do you perceive them to fill that isn't filled better by something else? I'd much rather go to a knife or open-hand if someone's already close enough to employ brass knuckles and use of force was unavoidable.
I still hold with my statement. I would not use brass knuckles on an apparently unarmed man, and I would never allow myself to get in a physical fight while carrying a pistol. And plus, brass knuckles are illegal in my state. I'll stick with pepper spray and a pistol.
Why not carry a baseball bat with nails driven into it, I'm sure a jury would be as receptive to that as brass knuckles.
Don't need the brass knuckles because I'm not getting into that kind of fight...I'm either going to be running or shooting...no h2h for this old man.
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I simply asked "IF" I was in a confrontaion. Sometimes it's unavoidable like it happened to me before. I take offense from you sir by saying I should act like an adult. Thanks for the great input.
Back in my early days, alot of the guys carried them. They'll definately do some damage, but wait till you see what your knuckles look like after delivering a few hard blows...they work both ways!
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I wouldn't even consider brass knucks when a J-frame Smith is available. You can pistol whip a dude with a revolver (if you're out of ammo, it jams up, whatever), but you sure as hell can't shoot a guy with brass knucks...
Just my $ .02
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