Colt 1911 magazine failure

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    Colt 1911 magazine failure

    So one of my two Colt mags crapped on me tonight.

    Five rounds into a mag, what I thought was just a weird bounce of the spent brass turned out to be the bottom literally falling out of one of my Colt magazines. The floor plate just came off. Looking at the pieces right now, it looks like the bottom is supposed to be welded in place and it isn't really supposed to come off. Either way, the floor plate doesn't stay in anymore and the mag is trash.

    Is this a common problem? I already plan to move to more lasting mags than these (Wilsons and Power Mags), but I was hoping for a little better quality from Colt magazines.


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    1) get rid of those crappy mags.

    2) Go out on the net to Wilson combat, Chip McCormick or Virgil Tripp and get some better mags, especially if that gun is your carry gun.

    Especially if you would bet your life on that gun going bang when you pull the trigger.....
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    I dont know if that problem in particular is common, but I havent heard much good about Colt mags.
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    Yep, you would think when you pay $900-1300 for a gun, they'd included quality mags, but oh no. Both Colt and Kimber mags are crap. I replaced them with Wilson Combat mags, that just happen to have a lifetime warranty on them.
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    I had that happen to me with a cheap mag that came with my Champion. I use Wilson or KimPro Tac mags now. I don't know anything about normal Kimber mags but the Tac mags have run perfect for me.
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    Huh, so my hope that Colt = quality would apply for their mags is unfounded? This does not a happy BAC make!

    edr9x23super, already on it. I'll probably lean towards the Power Mags for now due (cost reasons), and I imagine they'll do me well enough for the short term. Virgil Tripp I hadn't heard of until now, so thanks for mentioning it. Good to have three reputable sources for 1911 magazines.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BAC View Post
    Huh, so my hope that Colt = quality would apply for their mags is unfounded? This does not a happy BAC make!
    This is not necessarily the case.

    There's an entire art/science behind 1911 mags and a wide variety of "colt" mags, some of which are better than others (especially when you're talking older mags).

    Design of the mags is a very complicated thing, and not easily assigned "good" or "bad". The feed lips on a magazine may be designed for different types of rounds. A lot of folks, even 1911 folks, don't know this. Not all work great with all types of ammo. But these are feed issues, and not the issue you had.

    I would be interested in seeing close up pictures of your failed mag.

    Here's a good article on 1911 mags that provides good information on how different kinds actually work. 1911 Magazine Analysis It's something to consider when picking out new magazines.
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    Yes, I have seen the floorplate blow out on two Colt magazines.
    One of mine.
    If the mag is good otherwise then have somebody tack weld it back on for you and use it for a range mag.
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    BlackPR, I'll have pictures of it tomorrow (daylight); I've been needing to break out the recently reacquired (ongoing war, I tell ya) camera to snap pics of the new grips.

    QK, how much does that usually cost, out of curiosity? I don't know anyone personally who can do it, and would prefer not to pay the cost of the mag in repairing it.

    (Midway has Power Mags for $17. Cool!)


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    I'd just hold onto it and ask around locally.

    I'm betting you'll eventually find a guy that does hobby welding that will tack weld it back on for you free.

    Most properly tuned Colt pistols will handle Colt factory mags just fine.

    They are usually good quality.

    I use a lot of Colt factory mags and they are fine.

    Colt uses Wolff springs in their mags BTW.
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    Here's a couple quick pictures I snapped of the dead mag. I can get more if other angles are requested.






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    BAC, I thought you had a Springfield? Where did this mag come from?


    **ETA, the reason I ask is that the mag pictured doesn't look like a "newer" production Colt mag.

    IMHO, me being no expert, that looks like a bogus mag, IE NOT Colt. I'm sure OD could tell for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JD View Post


    **ETA, the reason I ask is that the mag pictured doesn't look like a "newer" production Colt mag.

    IMHO, me being no expert, that looks like a bogus mag, IE NOT Colt. I'm sure OD could tell for sure.
    Agreed. That's a counterfeit mag.

    If it was a Colt factory mag, it would have the Rampant Pony stamped on it.


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    I saw this happen in person last year on a friend's gun while he was loading the mag. Welded the baseplate back on, little bluing and all's well.
    I just picked up a Para 1911 and will be doing the same thing on the Kimber and Colt mags that I'll be using for carry. They have 4 tack welds that are pretty darn flimsy. I know everyone says Wilson mags are the greatest, but personally I don't care the plastic baseplates.
    If you want to send it to me with a couple bucks return shipping I'll be happy to fix it for you.

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    You might try taking it to one of those places at the mall that fix eyeglasses -- if they have a laser welder they should be able to weld it back together with the required precision.

    Similar mags are available for $8 here so it's probably not worth the cost of mailing the broken one to me...

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