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    Question about flying

    Later this year my grandmother will be taking my entire family on a cruise. Today I was at the travel agency butting up the final detail and we got talking about the segment on air emergency on 20/20 the other night and the travel agent made a comment about the power going out on the plane, so I pulled out my surefire e2dl. Everyone in the room proceeded to tell me it wouldn't be aloud onboard.One agent even went as far as to say"especially that light, I know what that is, its a weapon" my question is, why not? what is this world coming to when you cant even bring a flashlight on a plane

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    Not surprising ...
    You cannot bring toothpaste, shampoo, a bottle of water, etc.
    However, I can take my Glock ... go figure !
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    Quote Originally Posted by jfl View Post
    Not surprising ...
    You cannot bring toothpaste, shampoo, a bottle of water, etc.
    However, I can take my Glock ... go figure !
    Huh...I bring toothpaste (with toothbrush of course), shaving cream, shampoo etc all the time (like today)...

    You take your Glock because it is corporate and not screened. I think you are talking apples and oranges.

    As for the surefire...go to the TSA website and check...but do not believe it to be considered a banned item.

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    I checked the TSA website under banned items and didnt see anything.

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    I have a surefire E2Dl "defender" flashlight and have carried it onboard (3 times last year) with no problems...

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    I believe its not the light but the battery's that are the problem. From what I could find you can not have loose spare battery's in your checked bag but you can have them in your carry on bags. It looks like you are all right to have the flash light with the battery's in it just not extra unless its in the carry on bag.

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    I carry one of these every week in my laptop bag on the plane.

    Sam's Club - Element? Super Bright L.E.D. Flashlight - 2ct

    I mainly have it in case the lights go out at the hotel or office I'm working in. I have 5 of these with them in the truck, nightstand, toolbox, etc.

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    I carry my SureFire on all flights...never had any problems. Just got back from Europe as well.

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    Flashlights are allowed.

    Weapons are not.

    It is a very short journey from flashlight to weapon with an E2DL.

    And all it would take would be someone who notices who knows. Then... You may lose your light, miss your flight, have to mail it if you have the time (or lose your light), or even lose the right to travel by airline in the future.

    Just saying it may be, not that it will be.

    Now, a standard E2E, or other aluminum flashlight? Trust me, a hammer fist from one is academically similar to that from a D series, without all of the fuss.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Erik View Post
    Flashlights are allowed.

    Weapons are not.

    It is a very short journey from flashlight to weapon with an E2DL.

    And all it would take would be someone who notices who knows. Then... You may lose your light, miss your flight, have to mail it if you have the time (or lose your light), or even lose the right to travel by airline in the future.

    Just saying it may be, not that it will be.

    Now, a standard E2E, or other aluminum flashlight? Trust me, a hammer fist from one is academically similar to that from a D series, without all of the fuss.
    Erik,
    It's an even shorter journey from scissors to weapon, and per TSA regulations THEY are allowed.......just sayin...

    Oh, and here's the TSA regulations that say that you can have scissors in a carry-on, as long as they are not longer than four inches (since you were going to ask) http://www.tsa.gov/travelers/airtrav...ted-items.shtm
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    But scissors are not specifically marketed as weapons, where as Surefire's D series is. Besides, the lobbyists worked for common sense security exceptions like razor sharp scissors, "combat" canes, titanium knitting needles, and other hobby and creature comforts for protected classes. There is no such group lobbying for the tactical gear, as it turns out. Remember, it not about what makes sense, it is about how it is.

    I once saw a linebacker-looking guy in a leather jacket get pulled aside. A search of hit jacket revealed two approximately 18 inch knitting needles. Yes, he produced a beginner's guide to knitting and a ball of yarn. Yes, he was allowed to continue.

    Another time a guy in a martial art tee-shirt ran up to security with a thick cane covered in metal knobs and carved impact points. The martial arts tee-shirt was from a cane fighting academy. Yes, he was allowed to continue. He ran off to make his flight.

    Again, it is not about making sense, which is the problem with the whole thing.
    God, country, family.

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    I think flashlights have to be under 7".

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