Bug Out Bag
This is a discussion on Bug Out Bag within the Related Gear & Equipment forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; I don't have one and thought with Christmas coming up I could ask for odds and ends from different folks.
So far I ...
November 21st, 2009 07:01 PM
Bug Out Bag
I don't have one and thought with Christmas coming up I could ask for odds and ends from different folks.
So far I have asked for this fire starter. Kershaw Knives, KE-1019 Fire Starter
and bought this blow out first aid kit (thanks to a very informative thread here). AMK Tactical Field /Trauma - Go Time Gear, LLC
November 21st, 2009 07:01 PM
November 21st, 2009 07:05 PM
There is a forum I've run across that speaks specifically to this subject plus a lot more-Everyday Carry Forum. (Hope its ok to mention other forums on this one!)
"Good decisions come from experience;
experience comes from bad decisions"
November 21st, 2009 07:06 PM
Might be nice, Im actually getting a piece of kit for one of mine.
Think about a Strike Force Ultimate Survival Technologies.
Rough Use Knife from Cheapthandirt.com
Sawvivor, I forget who makes it.
I know not what this "overkill" means.
Honing the knives, Cleaning the longguns, Stocking up ammo.
November 21st, 2009 07:10 PM
I think water purification would be a good thing. The list can go on and on though. I have been getting things little by little also.
It will be a fun process for you. Everyone is diffferent and what might work for the ther guys might not work for you.
I have extra ammo and mags, water treatment, fire starting gear, first aid, cash, etc. The list goes on and I dont want to bore anyone.
Ruger P345, S&W 637
SKS, Ruger 1022
November 21st, 2009 07:41 PM
November 21st, 2009 08:17 PM
Good Point. Sometimes like in CA there may be a Forrest Fire or Natural Disaster. Might have to leave town for a while or maybe volunteer to help out etc.
Ruger P345, S&W 637
SKS, Ruger 1022
November 21st, 2009 09:06 PM
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November 21st, 2009 09:57 PM
Well, survival is a very personal thing. In that, I mean what exactly is your life, safety and security worth to you? Survival kit/BOB kit items, if you truly value your life, are items you don't want to skimp on or get on the cheap. Yes, value shopping is essential to get quality items at the best possible price. Trust me, the prices of the exact same item by the same manufacturer varies widely from place to place.
You definitely want equipment that is high quality, rugged, tested and proven to work or not break when used in the field. When your world has been rocked, your life is in chaos, and you are thrust into an emergency situation, is not the time to realize that items you bought to stake your life on is a bunch of crap.
The survival industry is huge! I mean really huge, and there are a lot of charlatan's out there selling junk. I will caution you that unless you've had professional survival training and/or an experienced wilderness camper it is very easy to acquire survival equipment which can and will let you down when you need it most.
So, what is the average person who is causally thinking, I need a Bug Out Bag or some Survival Equipment to do?
Well, the first thing I would do is figure out if I'm just playing around or am I serious about my survival! Just what exactly is your life worth to you? Is your wife and children staking their lives on YOU to have all the answers?
Am I just going to go out and buy some commercially put together 72 hr. "Survival Kit" filled with one or two decent items and the rest of it filled with flimsy junk for $200 and feel that's all I need. Do all I need is just some false sense of security or do I need something that will really do what it says it will?
After attending SERE school in the Marine Corps, as well as attending over 60 hours of wilderness survival training from one of the best survival instructors in the country, I've learned that the best thing to do is to custom build your own personal survival kit and/or BOB.
Truly, 80% of Survival is having a Positive Mental Attitude! Without that, you're doomed. That leaves us with a balance of 10% proper survival equipment, and 10% knowledge on how to use that equipment and the skills you possess.
What you need to understand is that if your equipment is only 10% of "Survival Equation" then the equipment you have needs to be the absolute best equipment you can afford to buy or make yourself. It must be proven to work in a true survival situation and not fail or let you down when the chips are down.
Research is the key to all this. If you haven't had any professional survival training, or are not an experienced wilderness adventurer, it just doesn't come to you through osmosis. You can't buy a "survival manual" lay it under your pillow at night and wake up in the morning and all of a sudden you know all there is to know about surviving. The best thing to do is take a survival course. And there, like all the equipment manufacturers, you have to enroll in a class, that is worth the money you spend. A reputable class taught by reputable people.
The internet is a vast wealth of information. Do the proper research, log on to forums and make sure the equipment you buy is something which will be useful, will not fail you in your hour of need, and something you've gotten for the best price you could find it at.
Then, get out and learn how to use it when it arrives. What good is having a flint and steel if you don't how to use it to build a fire when you are in stage II hypothermia, it's raining and you just used up all your "commercially manufatured" tinder that came with your flint & steel. Or that $30 "Rambo" survival knife (with the hollow handle which holds a needle and suture material) breaks and you're standing there holding just the handle when trying to split a piece of wood for your fire.
Well, sometimes your 80% positive mental attitude and "will to survive" might get you through it, but when you're fighting hypothermia, you're exhausted and scared, and that 10% equipment fails you, you may not live to see the sun rise.
Also, to address your original post... If you're wanting to get items for your "kit" as presents from other people... Either give them a specific list with specific items with the brand name of the product and where to get it, or purchase the stuff yourself! Do you really want to trust your life to judgment of someone else who may not know exactly what you need or want?
"The gun is the great equalizer... For it is the gun, that allows the meek to repel the monsters; Whom are bigger, stronger and without conscience, prey on those who without one, would surely perish."
November 21st, 2009 10:11 PM
Great post by Bark'n - so true....so true.
November 21st, 2009 10:37 PM
November 21st, 2009 11:00 PM
November 21st, 2009 11:08 PM
Yes, there are tons of stuff you can get...besides edcforums for ideas on bags, gear and supplies you might find countycomm interesting for some of the gear...
"Texas can make it without the United States, but the United States can't make it without Texas!".... Sam Houston
NRA Life Member
November 22nd, 2009 10:02 AM
Thank you Bark'n points well taken!
Originally Posted by Bark'n
November 22nd, 2009 04:34 PM
I would list dependable transportation, several full gas cans, a first aid kit, and some cash. If I am staying put I pretty much have what I need. If I am leaving, I can pretty much buy what I need at my destination. The link is to an article that states that in the United States no one is more than 145 miles by car (107 miles as the crow flies) from a McDonalds:
Farthest Distance From a McDonald's: 107 Miles | The Big Money
Not my first choice but it serves to illustrate the point. Travel fast, travel light, and be flexible.
November 22nd, 2009 06:10 PM
CASH, gas, and clean water.
Originally Posted by gglockster
In situations where you have to bug out fast, cash is king, gas is essential (be sure to have stablizer in it if you are storing it), and clean drinking water. Those are three items that are hard to come by when the feces hits the fan.
After that, your selection is mostly personal, as recommended by my Devil Dog brother, Bark'N
21 years and 21 days, United States Marine Corps & NRA Life Member since 1972
"The trouble is with the increasingly widespread problem of idiots prancing around out there confusing their opinions with actual facts." peckman28
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