Can you help me with a bug out bag?

Can you help me with a bug out bag?

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    Can you help me with a bug out bag?

    Hey guys whats up? anyway ive got a blackhawk molle pack and Ive started to make up a bug out bag but think that im lacking some stuff, just cant seem to put my finger on it. anyway here is what I got, Also The bag gets used as a hunting pack also,

    Compass, gps, xtra batteries, wind up flashlight, tp, medical pack, water filter, xtra ammo, flint, straight blade schrade knife, black hawk serpa for my glock 27 or 22, a sweatshirt, socks, some power bars,
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    Try to avoid taking everything you own. The mistake many make is the pack becomes too heavy and bulky and tops 80#. I have what you've got plus some rope, ponchos, fire starter, whistle, small tent stakes, 2 pouches of tuna, 2 cans of Spam, 4 1-liter bottles of water, gloves, wool hat, 4 loaded mags for my 1911 and 5 stripper clips for my SKS (plus some other stuff). My pack weighs 36# and will get lighter as the water disappears.
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    I will probably repost this in it's own thread when I have a chance to get some photo's done along with a detailed explanation of components and why I have what I do. But I thought I'd post mine so you can have a few ideas.

    I should point out this is not just a BOB, but it is an overall General Emergency Bag. It goes with me in the truck daily and comes inside at night. It should handle any type of emergency situation whether I shelter in place at home or am stranded out on the road. It is also capable of long term excursions in a Bug Out situation.

    There is a fair amount of redundancy built into the pack, however, it is geared to take care of 2 people. Be it my wife who would find it difficult to carry her own bag due to a permanent injury or if I am stranded in my vehicle with any traveling companions who may be along with me at the time of emergency. I also have a "major medical" first aid bag, which my wife could handle carrying which I use on the swat team in a true bug out situation. However I don't keep that kit with me daily like this bag.

    While I haven't done a precision weighing of the pack, on my home bathroom scale, it tops out at 38 - 40 pounds. Not a typical 70 lbs combat load, but very doable for long distance travel on foot.

    Also, you will note that each compartment on the pack is dedicated to certain types of items for easy access under stressful and adverse conditions.

    Maxpedition Falcon II Backpack (laminated contents list stored in hydration pocket)

    Pouches and Gear Mounted Externally On Pack
    (2) Maxpedition 10” X 4” Bottle Holders (these have a small pouch sewn on them): Front pouches {Esbit Stove, Java Juice Coffee, Tea, Guyot Designs Microbites Utensils} – {Pak-Lite 9v.; Water Stabilizer, Katadyn Micropur tabs}
    GSI Stainless Steel Cup 16 Oz. (stored in Maxpedition 10” X 4” Bottle Holder)
    Wiley-X (model XL-1 light adjusting prescription sunglasses / safety goggles)
    ACR Firefly Plus (strobe/flashlight combo) in front pouch of Maxpedition Bottle Holder
    (2) 32 Oz Water Bottles: 1-Guyot Designs Stainless Steel (can boil water or cook) & 1-Nalgene BPA free plastic
    Ranger Beads, Fox 40 whistle, Compass & small Fire kit carried on small carabiner attached to shoulder strap
    (1)RAT Survival/E&E Kit (Easy access kit for use w/o main pack kept in a Maxpedition Four-by-Six pouch. (Plus I added 1 pk of Stay Alert Gum, mini-flashlight, 32 oz water bag, Katadyn tabs, 10 ft. 550 cord, 15ft. mil spec 3/32 tether cord, one Space Blanket, AMK Pocket Medic Mini-FAK)
    (1)Maxpedition Triad Admin Pouch - Sure Fire 6P, Fox OC Spray, Compass, Fresnel Lens
    (1)Spec Ops Brand Map Case (Various City, State, County, Topo maps & UTM Plotter)
    (1)Exped MultiMat Sleeping Pad by Outdoor Research
    Maxpedition Triple Mag Holder; Universal CCW Holster & single cal. cleaning kit (concealed inside hydration pocket)

    Pack Compartment 1 (Misc. Quick Grab Items)
    Mini- Binoculars
    Fenix MC-10 Angle Head Flashlight (125 lumen – 50 lumen – 5 lumen – SOS - Strobe)
    Smith Knife Sharpener (ceramic, carbide, diamond combo)
    Leatherman Surge multi-tool & Pocket Widgy 4” Pry Bar
    Energizer Headlight – 60 lumen
    Knot Tying Cards

    Pack Compartment 2 (First Aid)
    AMK Ultralight .9 FAK with add-ons (Dental Kit, Suture Kit, CAT Tourniquet, Water Jel Burn Dressings (3) & Burn Gel unit dose pkg., Poison Ivy & Insect Sting Kit, Irrigating Saline Vials)
    OTC Meds Kit, Electrolytes, Lotrimin anti-fungal, Albuterol MDI, Alka Seltzer, Betadine Sol.
    Chest Decompression Needle & Asherman Chest Seal
    Nasal Airway, 28 fr. & water based lube
    Nail Clippers
    Ear Plugs in case (attach to keyper)

    Pack Compartment 3 (Survival)
    Rite In The Rain notepad w/ Space Pen & Pencil (In nylon case)
    Repel 100 - 100% Deet Insect Repellant
    Sunscreen 30 + SPF
    Lip Balm (Carmex – leak proof tube)
    Stay Alert Caffeine Gum (2 packs)
    Toilet Paper & Colegate Wisp mini brushes w/ paste (8), Floss, Hand Sanitizer in Ziploc bag
    Glass Signal Mirror (stored in pocket behind Rite In The Rain notebook)
    Cyalume or AmeriGlow Chem Lights (2 or 3)
    Best Glide Brand Survival Fishing Kit
    2 sets of Military Speed HooksTM (stored in notebook case w/ notepad for protection)
    Compact Gill Net (12' x 4')
    Game Snares (16)
    Space Blankets (2)
    MIOX Water Purification device
    Fire Kit*
    Compass (spare)

    Pack Compartment 4 (Camping Gear & Misc. Survival)
    SAS Survival Handbook (in Ziploc bag)
    Compact AM,FM, Short Wave radio, Ext. 9 ft. Anntena, Duct Tape, Scotch Super 88 Elec. Tape (in Ziploc bag)
    Tri-lens Magnifier 5x-10x-15x (for close inspection of wounds, plants, etc. and fire starting)
    Equinox Ultralite Sil Nylon Poncho/Shelter
    Equinox Ultralite 6' X 8' Sil Nylon Tarp
    Paracord, Type III, seven strand (100')
    Tether Cord, Mil-Spec 3/32" (100')
    Work Gloves - Ironclad
    Bahco Laplander Folding Saw
    U-Dig-It Backpacker Trowel
    Meals, instant & quick fix (1 ea., Mountainhouse, Mainstay Ration)
    Nalgene Bottle (16 oz) Rice & Chicken Bullion premix
    Nalgene Bottle (16 oz) Cream of Wheat w/ Brown Sugar premix
    Teriyaki Beef Jerky Chunks to mix w/ Rice
    Cliff Bars or Power Bars, Centrum Vitamins
    (2) 32 oz. Compact Water Bags & Coffee Filters
    Boxers, Socks & Bandana's in Ziploc bag (2 each), Boonie Hat, Mosquito Net
    Spare Batteries: (6) CR-123; (8) AA lithium; (1) 9V lithum for flashlights & SW radio)
    SOG Seal Pup Fixed Blade (Upgrade to RAT Cutlery - RC 3 & RC 5 fixed blade knives)

    *Fire Kit has 4 independent ways of starting fire. (Fire Steel, Lifeboat Matches, Peanut Lighter, Spark-Lite, Tender-Quick , Wet Fire Tinder, Fat Wood, BCB Tinder Card & Magnesium Rod, Zippo Fuel)

    **Can reconfigure if going to Desert Environment to include several Solar Stills & Transpiration Bags for water collection.

    Future Upgrades: Garmin GPSMAP 60 CSX, ACR SARLink PLB (2883),
    MK-124 Smoke/Flare Combo (Day/Night Signal), MK-8 Parachute Pop Flare, (Dave Cantebury) Carabiner Sling Bow with 3 or 4 Take Down Arrows

    Maximum Weight Should Be about 40 lbs. (Without Handgun & Magazines)
    Last edited by Bark'n; November 3rd, 2012 at 04:45 AM. Reason: changed the overall pack weight
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    Im attempting the same thing. Here is what I have found

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    Maybe I'm way off, but bugout to me means,grab it and out the door and it keeps me going for a day or two at most. In otherwords..pistol, ammo, water, snack bar, knife, compass, very basic first aid, 550 cord or similar, Leatherman type tool and a flashlight and monocular @ 7x. It's not for camping or packing on a hike, but keeping you alive for a day or two. You can find/make your shelter and more food if needed. It's extra weight I don't want to lug around. As for all that other stuff...good bye/ good luck

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bark'n View Post
    I will probably repost this in it's own thread when I have a chance to get some photo's done along with a detailed explanation of components and why I have what I do. But I thought I'd post mine so you can have a few ideas.

    I should point out this is not just a BOB, but it is an overall General Emergency Bag. It goes with me in the truck daily and comes inside at night. It should handle any type of emergency situation whether I shelter in place at home or am stranded out on the road. It is also capable of long term excursions in a Bug Out situation.

    There is a fair amount of redundancy built into the pack, however, it is geared to take care of 2 people. Be it my wife who would find it difficult to carry her own bag due to a permanent injury or if I am stranded in my vehicle with any traveling companions who may be along with me at the time of emergency. I also have a "major medical" first aid bag, which my wife could handle carrying which I use on the swat team in a true bug out situation. However I don't keep that kit with me daily like this bag.

    While I haven't done a precision weighing of the pack, on my home bathroom scale, it tops out at 25 pounds. Not a typical 70 lbs combat load, but very doable for long distance travel on foot.

    Also, you will note that each compartment on the pack is dedicated to certain types of items for easy access under stressful and adverse conditions.

    Maxpedition Falcon II Backpack (laminated contents list stored in hydration pocket)

    Mounted Externally On Pack
    32 Oz Water Bottles (2): 1-Guyot Designs Stainless Steel (boiling water) & 1-Nalgene BPA free plastic
    Maxpedition 10” X 4” Bottle Holders (2): Front pouches {Esbit Stove, Java Juice Coffee, Tea, Guyot Designs Microbites Utensils} – {Pak-Lite 9v.; Water Stabilizer, Katadyn Micropur tabs}
    GSI Stainless Steel Cup 16 Oz. (stored in Maxpedition 10” X 4” Bottle Holder)
    Wiley-X (model XL-1 light adjusting prescription sunglasses / safety goggles)
    ACR Firefly Plus (strobe/flashlight combo) in front pouch of Maxpedition Bottle Holder
    Ranger Beads, Fox 40 whistle, Compass & small Fire kit carried on small carabiner
    RAT Survival/E&E Kit (Easy access kit for use w/o main pack in Maxpedition Four-by-Six pouch – add (1 pk) Stay Alert Gum, mini-flashlight, 32 oz water bag, Katadyn tabs, 10 ft. 550 cord, 15ft. mil spec 3/32 tether cord, Space Blanket (1), AMK Pocket Medic Mini-FAK)
    Maxpedition Triad Admin Pouch - Sure Fire 6P, Fox OC Spray, Compass, Fresnel Lens
    Spec Ops Brand Map Case (Various City, State, County, Topo maps & UTM Plotter)
    Exped MultiMat Sleeping Pad by Outdoor Research
    Maxpedition Triple Mag Holder; Universal CCW Holster & single cal. cleaning kit (concealed inside hydration pocket)

    Pack Compartment 1 (Misc. Quick Grab Items)
    Mini- Binoculars
    Fenix MC-10 Angle Head Flashlight (125 lumen – 50 lumen – 5 lumen – SOS - Strobe)
    Smith Knife Sharpener (ceramic, carbide, diamond combo)
    Leatherman Surge multi-tool & Pocket Widgy 4” Pry Bar
    Energizer Headlight – 60 lumen
    Knot Tying Cards

    Pack Compartment 2 (First Aid)
    AMK Ultralight .9 FAK with add-ons (Dental Kit, Suture Kit, CAT Tourniquet, Water Jel Burn Dressings (3) & Burn Gel unit dose pkg., Poison Ivy & Insect Sting Kit, Irrigating Saline Vials)
    OTC Meds Kit, Electrolytes, Lotrimin anti-fungal, Albuterol MDI, Alka Seltzer, Betadine Sol.
    Chest Decompression Needle & Asherman Chest Seal
    Nasal Airway, 28 fr. & water based lube
    Nail Clippers
    Ear Plugs in case (attach to keyper)

    Pack Compartment 3 (Survival)
    Rite In The Rain notepad w/ Space Pen & Pencil (In nylon case)
    Repel 100 - 100% Deet Insect Repellant
    Sunscreen 30 + SPF
    Lip Balm (Carmex – leak proof tube)
    Stay Alert Caffeine Gum (2 packs)
    Toilet Paper & Colegate Wisp mini brushes w/ paste (8), Floss, Hand Sanitizer in Ziploc bag
    Glass Signal Mirror (stored in pocket behind Rite In The Rain notebook)
    Cyalume or AmeriGlow Chem Lights (2 or 3)
    Best Glide Brand Survival Fishing Kit
    2 sets of Military Speed HooksTM (stored in notebook case w/ notepad for protection)
    Compact Gill Net (12' x 4')
    Game Snares (16)
    Space Blankets (2)
    MIOX Water Purification device
    Fire Kit*
    Compass (spare)

    Pack Compartment 4 (Camping Gear & Misc. Survival)
    SAS Survival Handbook (in Ziploc bag)
    Compact AM,FM, Short Wave radio, Ext. 9 ft. Anntena, Duct Tape, Scotch Super 88 Elec. Tape (in Ziploc bag)
    Tri-lens Magnifier 5x-10x-15x (for close inspection of wounds, plants, etc. and fire starting)
    Equinox Ultralite Sil Nylon Poncho/Shelter
    Equinox Ultralite 6' X 8' Sil Nylon Tarp
    Paracord, Type III, seven strand (100')
    Tether Cord, Mil-Spec 3/32" (100')
    Work Gloves - Ironclad
    Bahco Laplander Folding Saw
    U-Dig-It Backpacker Trowel
    Meals, instant & quick fix (1 ea., Mountainhouse, Mainstay Ration)
    Nalgene Bottle (16 oz) Rice & Chicken Bullion premix
    Nalgene Bottle (16 oz) Cream of Wheat w/ Brown Sugar premix
    Teriyaki Beef Jerky Chunks to mix w/ Rice
    Cliff Bars or Power Bars, Centrum Vitamins
    (2) 32 oz. Compact Water Bags & Coffee Filters
    Boxers, Socks & Bandana's in Ziploc bag (2 each), Boonie Hat, Mosquito Net
    Spare Batteries: (6) CR-123; (8) AA lithium; (1) 9V lithum for flashlights & SW radio)
    SOG Seal Pup Fixed Blade (Upgrade to RAT Cutlery - RC 3 & RC 5 fixed blade knives)

    *Fire Kit has 4 independent ways of starting fire. (Fire Steel, Lifeboat Matches, Peanut Lighter, Spark-Lite, Tender-Quick , Wet Fire Tinder, Fat Wood, BCB Tinder Card & Magnesium Rod, Zippo Fuel)

    **Can reconfigure if going to Desert Environment to include several Solar Stills & Transpiration Bags for water collection.

    Future Upgrades: Garmin GPSMAP 60 CSX, ACR SARLink PLB (2883),
    MK-124 Smoke/Flare Combo (Day/Night Signal), MK-8 Parachute Pop Flare, (Dave Cantebury) Carabiner Sling Bow with 3 or 4 Take Down Arrows

    Maximum Weight Should Be about 25 lbs. (Without Handgun & Magazines)
    Barkn..this is a great kit, but how much does all that stuff weigh? I'm an EMT also, but I don't plan on taking the ambulance with me!haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boatail
    Barkn..this is a great kit, but how much does all that stuff weigh? I'm an EMT also, but I don't plan on taking the ambulance with me!haha
    25 lbs.

    For me, a Bug Out Bag is something more than just for 2 days. Obviously everyone's criteria is going to be different for what they need. For crying out loud, I have enough bush craft skills I can last 2 days with just what I carry in my pockets. After attending SERE school and numerous other survival courses I know what I want to have with me in a true survival situation throughout the world. Can I get by with less? Absolutely, but why not make things easier on myself if I can.

    This is really more than just a bug out bag as indicated at the beginning of the post. It is also large enough where at least two people can benefit from it. (I have to think about having my wife along with me). This is a serious emergency kit for genuine long term survival be it a natural or man made disaster where what is unknown out number what is known. I'm not looking for a kit just to get me from my rural town to the next hotel to stay at.

    This kit good for just about any remote location in any environment on any continent excluding Antarctica. It is also designed to be worked out of if I'm injured. For example, If I'm stranded at the bottom of a remote box canyon with a broken arm, I'm not going to succumb to the elements after 2 days. Also, remove the pyrotechnics, firearm, knife and a few other items and it can be carried on most commercial carriers as carry on baggage.

    If a 25 lb. load is too much to carry in an unknown real life emergency bug out situation, you're probably not the type of person who is going to make it much on your own anyways. JMHO
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    I'm just getting started in this whole arena, and I don't really know where to begin.

    One question that's been bugging me is this:

    If a major disaster occurred, wouldn't it be better to stay where I live rather than bug out or head to a retreat?

    If you've been doing this for awhile, I'd appreciate direction to a resource that would help me out a bit with this.
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    Nova, I'm sheltering in place if at all possible. It's easier, and safer to fortify my castle at home than go wandering out in the open.

    However not all disasters can have one stay at home. For example, what would happen if a pandemic broke out in your immediate area? Say a biological attack of some sorts cropped up. We have a nuclear power plant less than 100 miles away as the crow flies. Any trouble there, and I'm bugging out and traveling upwind until I hit the next State over.

    The point is, something may happen in which I may want to relocate to a State park or campground area as far as 1 or 2 States away until I find out what is going on in my area. I don't want to waste time trying to put kits together after I've been notified of an emergency before I can leave.

    The other thing is, suppose something happens while I'm out on the road? Say, my wife and I are on vacation in another State in unfamiliar surroundings when civil unrest breaks out or an earthquake strikes?

    I want the ability to set up a remote base camp that may last 1 or 2 days or 3 or 4 weeks no matter where I'm at.

    But again, if at all possible, Yes, I'm staying at home in my fortified residence where I have more resources at hand and am familiar with the locals and what's around me.
    -Bark'n
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    Something major...you are better to stay at the hacienda....but I built one for an Oh Shoot Kit. It stays in my truck and is there when I break down and have to hoof out or have a first aid need or whatever. Not really a BOB.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bark'n View Post
    Nova, I'm sheltering in place if at all possible. It's easier, and safer to fortify my castle at home than go wandering out in the open.

    However not all disasters can have one stay at home. For example, what would happen if a pandemic broke out in your immediate area? Say a biological attack of some sorts cropped up. We have a nuclear power plant less than 100 miles away as the crow flies. Any trouble there, and I'm bugging out and traveling upwind until I hit the next State over.

    The point is, something may happen in which I may want to relocate to a State park or campground area as far as 1 or 2 States away until I find out what is going on in my area. I don't want to waste time trying to put kits together after I've been notified of an emergency before I can leave.

    The other thing is, suppose something happens while I'm out on the road? Say, my wife and I are on vacation in another State in unfamiliar surroundings when civil unrest breaks out or an earthquake strikes?

    I want the ability to set up a remote base camp that may last 1 or 2 days or 3 or 4 weeks no matter where I'm at.

    But again, if at all possible, Yes, I'm staying at home in my fortified residence where I have more resources at hand and am familiar with the locals and what's around me.
    Thanks for that answer.

    I need to do a lot more work on this - suffice it to say that I never thought I'd need one of these bags. Never say never though...I'm going to begin putting something together this week.
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    When I first started planning, I thought about the types of threats could I face. Each area of the country faces their own unique challenges such as weather conditions. However there are some common threats that most of us could face. Most of us could be affected by a hazmat incident (leak from a building, truck or railroad)or the crazy neighbor that builds a meth lab or bomb.

    “Stuck at home gear” - extra food, water, grill with extra propane tank, dog food, all hazards radio, generator and extra gas, extra clothing, relative extensive first aid supply.

    “72 hour packs” These are set up in case we have to evacuate our house. They are set up as grab n go bags. Personal hygiene, FRS radios with all hazards channels, change of clothes, extra socks, gloves, MRE’s etc.

    We also have gear in our vehicles and working on a gear bag for my wife to keep in her office.

    We have our home gear stored in keeper totes, so if we are forced to evacuate and have time we can load up extra food, clothing etc.
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