This is a discussion on Old manuals within the Reloading forums, part of the Defensive Ammunition & Ballistics category; I have noticed that amazon and ebay carry a lot of the old manuals. Saw some speer and other brand manuals from what looked like ...
August 6th, 2012 08:48 PM
I have noticed that amazon and ebay carry a lot of the old manuals. Saw some speer and other brand manuals from what looked like the 60s-80s. Do these still have a place in modern reloading?
I assume some loads would depend heavily on the gun they are going into. From what I gathered the charges were higher. For instance I would assume a heavy frame revolver may fair better with some loads than a new airweight.
Anyhow, with proper increases in powder one could check for signs of overpressure and arrive at a safe load. Will these old manuals take me to a limit the new ones don't offer? Would it be more of a novelty to own than anything?
Hope this thread is coherent. Jazzed up on some evening coffee.
August 6th, 2012 08:48 PM
August 6th, 2012 09:12 PM
I still refer to my Speer #9 on occasion. Of course, it doesn't list any newer powders developed since then, but what is listed in it for .38 148grn wadcutters is just as effective now as in '75 when I bought it. However, I wouldn't buy an old one in lieu of a current edition.
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August 6th, 2012 09:17 PM
Looking to supplement a new manual. Had a Lee manual in the past. Think of trying something new but cannot decide. Thinking speers newest, lee(since it is such a cheap book) , and a few old ones for kicks. They are real cheap online.
August 6th, 2012 10:49 PM
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August 7th, 2012 07:27 PM
I've been handloading since the mid 1970s after being exposed to it earlier than that. Originally used borrowed equipment owned by family members but obtained my own set-up in 1978.
I revere both the the 1978 Sierra manual, especially for rifle loads, and also the older Lyman manuals such as the 46th and previous editions designed on the same format. These are still trusted. I have various newer manuals but find them mostly unsatisfactory. Of course they are indispensable for propellent powder developments marketed in the past 30 years.
The Speer manuals are fairly conventional. The Speer No. 9 was the first manual I acquired for my own library. The Speer No. 8 has some gutbustin' loads listed for SR 4756. Makes the .38 Special into an absolute hammer. I've tried the loads but am skeptical that they remain anywhere near as low as maximum SAAMI pressures.
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August 7th, 2012 08:30 PM
Looking at the Lyman manuals. Sounds like the cover a little of everything. Lee had a bunch of lead loads to match their bullet makers. Speer has loads for all their stuff. From what I gather Lyman doesn't play favorites in theirs.
Most loads listed in the new ones will probably cover everything I need, but it would be nice to have a couple that were not tampered with by lawsuits. Then if the mood strikes can load up some real hot .357 and others.
August 7th, 2012 10:06 PM
i started reloading in 1973 and i still use/look at the data from my first manual. older manuals have good data in them. i all on the look out for them in yard sales, etc...
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August 9th, 2012 08:53 PM
I never get rid of older manuals. That said, if you are buying, buy a new one to ensure you have the most recent listings of newer powders. Generally, though, you will find the older manuals list hotter loads than the newer (probably because of liability concerns rather than new pressure data).
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