Using small pistol primers for my .223

Using small pistol primers for my .223

This is a discussion on Using small pistol primers for my .223 within the Reloading forums, part of the Defensive Ammunition & Ballistics category; I have been having problems just like the rest of you finding small rifle primers. I have a lot 5000 of the small pistol primers ...

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    Using small pistol primers for my .223

    I have been having problems just like the rest of you finding small rifle primers. I have a lot 5000 of the small pistol primers and thought that I would see if anyone else has tried it.
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    you might get slam fire with pistol primers. they are softer than rifle primers.
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    The .223 operates at 20,000 PSI above the loads small pistol primers are designed to contain.
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    You can get away with small rifle primers in pistol loads but I don't think I'd use SP primers in a rifle load.


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    I have quite a few small rifle primers and a shortage of small pistol :D

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    So your a wildcatter! lol I wouldn't risk it. The pistol cups are softer as has been said. You may get away with it once or twice, but 3 times might be the charm! I have alot of reloading experience but I don't know everything and I'm not a Wildcatter. I would go here to ask your question. These guys will know for sure and if it can be done, someone on Accurate Reloading has done it!

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    The difference between Small Pistol Primers and Small Rifle Primers is the thickness of the bottom of the Primer Cup to contain the pressure of the round being shot. Pistol Primers have a thinner primer cup than Small Rifle primers. Rifle cartridges have more pressure built up in them during ignition than a pistol cartridge other than a couple of exotics loaded to IPSC major like 38 Super and some hot 9MM major loads which are really wild to load and shoot. Use small pistol in pistol calibers and small rifle in rifle calibers. The small rifle calibers ignite hotter than the small pistol primers also which can cause issues if used in a handgun round. The issue with small pistol used in a rifle load is that if the primer cup blows you get some of the pressure in the gun bolt and maybe your face!
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    I have 19,000 Wolf Small rifle,I would sell 5000 for $125.00 + you will need to cover any hazmat and shipping fees
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    There's a reason they make small pistol and small rifle primers. If they were interchangeable there would just be "small primers".
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    ill buy some small pistol primers from ya ;)
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    It depends, normally you don't want to deviate to much from reputable data or components. That out of the way, I have tested small pistol primers with modest 204 Ruger loads fired in a bolt gun. I observed no adverse issues.

    Now if you plan max charges in your AR, I'd have to say NO.

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    I dont recomend it, but-----If I were to even try that sort of thing I would opt for small pistol MAGNUM primers. Some 357 +P loads are in the low pressure range of the .223.

    That said---I am currently loading the 5.56 with RECLAIMED primers from .30 carbine with no problems at all.

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    Wierd. Here, it's the pistol primers that are in short supply.

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