Esoteric question: is anyone making/selling THV bullets in the US?

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    Esoteric question: is anyone making/selling THV bullets in the US?

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    Never heard of them and a google search comes up with nothing as far as sales. Here is a link about them for others interested in what they are:
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    Wasn't there just a thread about a new high speed/low weight handgun cartridge for military use? 5.27mm or something like that?

    I simply don't think they're as effective as bullets that have mass. They pack more energy, but in a primarily liquid and elastic target (the human body), much of that energy is transferred and dissipates without causing an incapacitating or mortal wound. If they fragment this is even more so. Penetration and mass are generally king with handguns, and if you have that then you can start talking about hollow points and energy transfer in terms of more physical damage by creating a wider wound channel. Also, flat shooting isn't much of an issue at closer ranges, so the main advantage of speed isn't very important. This has been experimented with for a century and a half, and what we use today has honestly tested best both in the lab and field.
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    i, kind of, brought this up a little while ago, the Radially Dynamic Bullets reference these THV bullets your talking about, i think the concept is similar either way. I think it hasn't really gotten any more traction than theory and initial testing, not sure of anyone is really making them other than the experimenters. i don't think any factory is pumping them out, anywhere.

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    It all hinges on whether the "temporary cavity" is more important or incapacitating than an actual wound channel. I'm sure this is debatable, but most of what I've read says it isn't.
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    From the Firearms tactical gel test the TC doesn't seem to be any larger than a normal HP about 3" or 4" thus it wouldn't cause significant wounding and the permanent crush cavity would be much smaller than that of an HP since it doesn't expand.

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    I just wanted to comment because you used a 5 dollar word like esoteric. Nice.
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    Since they're mostly armor piercing, I think they would be rather difficult to find in the US. Note, I didn't say impossible.

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