What to do w/primed cases that need to be expanded..
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I am reloading for 45 acp, 230 grn LRN, i have a few cases that when I ran through the expander did not get ...
October 14th, 2007 11:59 PM
What to do w/primed cases that need to be expanded..
I am reloading for 45 acp, 230 grn LRN, i have a few cases that when I ran through the expander did not get sized so that the LRN are still too big..I've already primed them.
Can I run them through the expander die-(and knock out the live primers)? Or should I just chuck them, maybe shoot them w/just the primers?
Have been reloading for a few mos but haven't come across this yet..
The primers are CCI btw.
October 15th, 2007 12:28 AM
I've had one like that and veeeeery carefully and veeeeeeerrrry slowly popped out the live primers successfully. I'd recommend a set of ear muffs just in case, but you should be able to get it out if you baby it.
October 15th, 2007 12:52 AM
Why don't you just shoot the empty casings off. Just put the casings in your firearms and snap off the primers. Shouldn't hurt anything as far as I know. Then you can safely remove the spent primers.
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October 15th, 2007 04:59 PM
Just a thought on reloading
But if the question is something like "can I do something a little dangerous so that I can save a few cents?" The right answer is "no".
Direct contact with WD40 wil deactivate them PDQ, so will contact with your firing pin.
October 15th, 2007 08:05 PM
All you need to do it take the decapping pin out of your resizing die. Done!
That being said I have also read on internet reloading forums from posters I had some confidence in that you can slowly and carefully deprime live cases with the decapping pin.
A primer going off will dirty the inside of your die, and could possibly damage it. However, it isn't a massive explosion, and as long as the powder is put away and you're wearing eye protection (ears might be a good idea too) you'll be fine. Don't ask me how I know.
Now if you were to fire the primers in your gun it wouldn't be awful or anything but not the best either. There is a lot more that goes on when a round goes "bang" then just the primer lighting the powder and the bullet going out the barrel. Basically the primer will push the case forward - the primer will push up against the breechface and possibly you'll have a stuck case to deal with. No biggie but better not to do it that way.
WD-40 also a perfectly viable option. If you don't want to deal with taking out the decapping pin or risk popping a primer, go for it. Just let them soak a bit - I'd give it a day to be on the safe side. I'm not sure how long it really takes to kill them that way.
October 15th, 2007 08:38 PM
+1 with Aus. Just remove the pin & resize.
You have to make the shot when fire is smoking, people are screaming, dogs are barking, kids are crying and sirens are coming.
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October 15th, 2007 09:35 PM
+1 on removing the decapping pin and resizing the case.
I have, not that I am recommending doing this, had to remove a primer that was put in upside down into a case. If you do it slowly with constant pressure, it will come out fine. Basically your depriming the case with the end that the fireing pin would normally hit.
Like I said I don't recommend doing this but it can be done.
+1 on the eye and hearing protection.
Just remember that shot placement is much more important with what you carry than how big a bang you get with each trigger pull.
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October 15th, 2007 09:40 PM
I too have "babied" a primer out with a decapping pin, and let me tell you from someone who has done it.......It's STUPID! I didn't ever have one go off on me, but being a little older and a little wiser I would never do it again. As others have said either remove the decapping pin, or pop off the primers. A few minutes of labor or a couple bucks of primers isn't worth the chance of a hospital visit.
October 16th, 2007 12:12 AM
As Aus said, just remove the decapping pin if your referring to re-sizing the brass. Or are you referring to belling the case?
Guess my question would be why it didn't get sized or belled the first time through the press?
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October 16th, 2007 02:32 AM
Originally Posted by Shooters Plus
I don't know why i didnt think of removing the decapping pin,
Not sure how the case didnt get belled, maybe I missed it..might have been one of the first cases I did and didn't have the die set right..
October 22nd, 2007 02:49 PM
Maybe I am reading this wrong but do you want a resized case or just more bell so the case doesn't shave lead?
Originally Posted by sui-juris
If your cases are too large and the bullet falls in then just run through the sizing process without the de-primer pin installed.
As for expander dies, they usually don't have a de-priming pin so just re-expand.
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October 22nd, 2007 03:59 PM
WD40 doesn't always deactivate the primer, so don't bet on it.
Direct contact with WD40 will deactivate them PDQ
, so will contact with your firing pin.
I've read your question several times, what exactly do you want to do, resize the case, bell the neck, or?
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November 30th, 2007 11:19 AM
I'd just load it and shoot the primer to be safe.
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