Need a recipie - 9mm 147gr + Blue Dot

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    Need a recipie - 9mm 147gr + Blue Dot

    Hi Guys.
    I am trying to standardize my handloading gear and blue dot has been a winner in most of my pistol loads.

    I'm trying to work up a subsonic load for a 5in barrel 9mm using Blue Dot and either 147gr FMJ or 147gr RemGoldenSabre.

    Does anyone have any good recipies they'd like to share? i've checked with some mfg loadbooks, just looking for any additional pointers, tips, recipies, etc.

    TIA!

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    Straight from alliants web site, Would start a little lower then the 5.8, usually the web sites say to reduce the listed load by 10%.
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    I know you are interested in golden sabers, don't know if there is much difference between the two hollow points.

    9mm Luger(start over with Pistols and Revolvers)
    147 gr Speer GDHP


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    My old Speer book shows the minimum charge of Blue Dot for a 147gr to be 4.8gr, and the max to be 6.6. This is from an old Speer book so take it with a grain of salt.

    As polardaddy pointed out, the Alliant websites lists the following 9mm Luger recipe:

    147gr HP over 5.8gr of Blue Dot with an OAL of 1.13 and a CCI500 primer for a velocity of 1,001 FPS.

    They don't specify barrel length.

    Hope that helps. Be careful

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shizzlemah View Post
    Hi Guys.
    I am trying to standardize my handloading gear and blue dot has been a winner in most of my pistol loads.

    I'm trying to work up a subsonic load for a 5in barrel 9mm using Blue Dot and either 147gr FMJ or 147gr RemGoldenSabre.

    Does anyone have any good recipies they'd like to share? i've checked with some mfg loadbooks, just looking for any additional pointers, tips, recipies, etc.

    TIA!
    I would be very careful trying to use other peoples recipes for loading subsonic. Every gun will shoot the same load with a different FPS and when dealing with low pressures you want to be careful about squibs. Doing this you could stack a few up in the barrel pretty quickly if you were not paying attention.

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    Yep, just look at the book or website and work your load from there. Will keep you out of trouble most of the time.

    I only use blue dot for the .357 and .44 mags though.
    Just remember that shot placement is much more important with what you carry than how big a bang you get with each trigger pull.
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    I would have thought that Blue Dot would be a little bulky for the 9mm, but admit that I have not tried it.

    Go the the alliant loading manual and start from there.

    Best,
    Jerry

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    Check the Alliant web site for a new safety notice concerning Blue Dot powder.

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