Depriming Live primers in press

Depriming Live primers in press

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    Depriming Live primers in press

    Haven't deprimed live primers before. Any hints?

    I guess I should just use eye ear protection throw a rag over the press and use my resizing/depriming dye?


    Reason I ask is I just inherited approx 600 .38 special rounds and I want to use the primers out of them for my 9mm as I do not yet own a .38.


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    I'm not sure but it's possible it could deform the primer so that it won't load in the new case,you can try a couple and see,I've had to deprime some brass before and it didn't go bang,or worse kaboom
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    Just like you deprime dead primers. It takes little pressure to remove a primer and your pushing the opposite side. Just make sure they are not factory crimped in place. This is not likely, but if they are crimped they will probably be damaged beyond use after removal. I do it all the time when I discover a damaged case after priming with both brass and shotgun cases.

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    Just go ahead and punch them out. Wear eye protection,just in case one or more decide to pop.

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    My advice to you is sell the .38 ammo and buy new primers for your 9mm. Depriming live primers can be dangerous and isn`t really worth the risk in my humble opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hubadub View Post
    My advice to you is sell the .38 ammo and buy new primers for your 9mm. Depriming live primers can be dangerous and isn`t really worth the risk in my humble opinion.
    Ditto. You NEVER screw around in any aspect of reloading. I am sure somebody will be happy to trade your primed brass for fresh primers. I think I may know somebody in your area that might do the trade.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ROFL SQUAD View Post
    Haven't deprimed live primers before. Any hints?

    I guess I should just use eye ear protection throw a rag over the press and use my resizing/depriming dye?


    Reason I ask is I just inherited approx 600 .38 special rounds and I want to use the primers out of them for my 9mm as I do not yet own a .38.


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    Ignore those who tell you to have at it. It's not good thing to do. Every reloading manual I have ever read says NOT to do it; even with a rag over the press, it is dangerous.

    That said, it's a useless exercise and the removed primers can't be reliably reused. You WILL do one of the following, or both ...

    - dislodge the anvil, making the primer useless
    - crack the primer cake, making the primer useless

    Not to mention having to pull the bullets and dispose of the old powder (since you have no idea what it is, you don't dare use it).

    All in all, it's a lousy idea.

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    Ditto the 3 posts directly above. Bad idea. Buy new primers.

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    Have I removed a live primer before yep, on occasion, but they were primers that got inserted upside down into the case. In thousands and thousands of reloaded rounds, I have only had to do it 3 or 4 times.

    Would I attempt to break down 600 rds of .38 to remove the primers so I could then use them in 9mm, nope. You weren't clear as to whether they are complete .38 rounds or just primed brass. Either way, trade, sell, swap, whatever, but like some others have said this isn't a good idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by farronwolf View Post
    Have I removed a live primer before yep, on occasion, but they were primers that got inserted upside down into the case. In thousands and thousands of reloaded rounds, I have only had to do it 3 or 4 times.

    Would I attempt to break down 600 rds of .38 to remove the primers so I could then use them in 9mm, nope. You weren't clear as to whether they are complete .38 rounds or just primed brass. Either way, trade, sell, swap, whatever, but like some others have said this isn't a good idea.
    +1 If they are complete rounds, removing 600 bullets would be labor intensive and hard on your hammer! I would for sure try and trade. I run across people all the time that are looking for .38 rounds!
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    Removing live primers is safe enough, although the chance does exist for one to pop. However, they become scrap as soon as you pop them out. Once inserted, they really can not be pulled and re-inserted.

    You really have no option on reusing them. Get new primers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BaserRonin View Post
    Removing live primers is safe enough, although the chance does exist for one to pop.
    No, it's not safe. If it were, the reloading manuals would not strongly recommend against it. I know several folks with pieces of primer in their fingers from doing it back when they were young and stupid - and cheap!

    One may get away with it, but that does not make it safe, any more than getting away with drunk driving makes it safe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Majorlk View Post
    No, it's not safe. If it were, the reloading manuals would not strongly recommend against it. I know several folks with pieces of primer in their fingers from doing it back when they were young and stupid - and cheap!

    One may get away with it, but that does not make it safe, any more than getting away with drunk driving makes it safe.
    Nice argument.
    I will concede you are correct, it is not "safe." Neither is reloading, Neither is shooting. But when done with some common sense and precautions, they are safe enough. Decapping is even sometimes necessary (gasp!) , and happens more frequently then you seem to think. You deform one enough seating it, you have to decap it live. It happens.
    If you don't feel comfortable doing it, don't do it. No one is saying decapping primers is a mickey-mouse-welcome-to-sesame-street-safety-padded exercise. It's not. The potential is there to end up with an anvil in your thigh, or in the case of your friends, their fingers(?). If you are going to do any of this reloading stuff, you need to be well aware of what you are dealing with, and what the potential for problems is. A healthy respect for the components and the process is an incredibly good thing.

    Use some common sense, wear eye protection, and be prepared if it does pop. When they pop, that anvil wants to come out, and it is moving fast. Ask me how I know.

    I would not recommend it for legal reasons, just like the manuals, but it can be, and is, done.

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    I repeat though, once a primer has been seated, it is wasted effort to try to decap and reseat it. More often then not the primer is damaged and is no longer functionally reliable after being decapped.

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    My friend, I have been reloading for about 35 years now and have never had an accident or injury while reloading - for a while, several thousand rounds a month. That record is a result of not doing foolish things like de-priming live primers.

    Telling some one it is "safe enough" is irresponsible, as far as I am concerned, but then I prefer to always take the cautious route in reloading.

    But when done with some common sense and precautions, they are safe enough. Decapping is even sometimes necessary (gasp!) , and happens more frequently then you seem to think. You deform one enough seating it, you have to decap it live. It happens.
    If you don't feel comfortable doing it, don't do it. No one is saying decapping primers is a mickey-mouse-welcome-to-sesame-street-safety-padded exercise. It's not. The potential is there to end up with an anvil in your thigh, or in the case of your friends, their fingers(?). If you are going to do any of this reloading stuff, you need to be well aware of what you are dealing with, and what the potential for problems is. A healthy respect for the components and the process is an incredibly good thing.
    If you had told all that to the OP in the first place. Then I would have had no complaint with you.

    And, by the way, if I have to remove a live primer, I do it in a firearm, not in a decapping die.

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    If I need to deprime live primers, I hit 'em with wd-40 first, run them empty through a pistol, pulling the trigger to make sure they are dead, then punch them out. I never ever try to reuse a primer, if I get to the point where I want to punch out a live primer, it is history...
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