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    Roanoke Times Op Ed -- Roanoke Va

    The writer having friend with whom he usually has rounds of talks about current events but who doesn't realize that the writer is black and a Democrat is about as creditable as the writer being a Second Amendment supporter. What's suggested/implied is a picture of gun owners that fits the RT agenda.

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    Choose dialogue, not guns

    Aubrey Gore

    Gore, of Bland County, is a Vietnam era veteran and Second Amendment supporter.

    Recently, a friend paid an unexpected visit. We were having our usual round of talks about current events, amid much laughter.

    Unexpectedly, he asked if I "thought it wrong for Haitian orphans to be placed in the homes of white Americans at the risk of losing their heritage."

    I jokingly replied, "It is better to lose heritage than to starve." My own African ancestors had to realize that. Perhaps his white ancestors did too.

    Next he brought forth the topic of health care reform. We discussed the pros and cons.

    In the midst of our conversation, he dropped a stone that had a monumental consequence as great as a tidal wave. He began to talk about his membership in a gun club and how every weekend they went to target practice and took survival forays into the mountains.

    I asked him why he owned so many guns, further adding that he was free to hunt on my property. He replied that he didn't hunt. His guns were for those "bleeding-heart, liberal Democrats" and their "socialist, illegal, colored leader, Obama."

    I was stunned. I asked him, "Do you mean, my friend, that you are gathering guns and reloading ammunition for me?"

    He looked at me, surprised, and said, "Oh, no; you are not like that."

    I replied, "I am exactly like that, for I am black and a Democrat."

    I lost a friend, but came to realize that a country whose citizens resort to policing and threatening others soon falls into a state of chaos, crime and anarchy. It becomes a place where the "patriots" become little more than homegrown terrorists -- those who would kill innocent men, women and children.

    A country -- or place within a country -- that forms its own private militia, operating outside the laws of a duly elected government, becomes a place where might makes right.

    It becomes a place where those with the most ruthless personalities, the most money and largest weapon caches make the law.

    It becomes a place not of freedom for all, but for those with the guns and roaming militias, where we revert to our old Wild West and have to hide whenever the outlaws ride into town.

    Do we really want to become a place similar to the domain of Mexican drug cartels or inner-city streets menaced by gangs? Do we think we'll be freed under the rule of multinational companies or corporate strategists inciting hatred and bigotry from the religious right, John Birch Society and other groups?

    These kinds of power coalitions don't amount to freedom. We may think that helping them overthrow and destroy our government will relieve us of the law, but we'll find ourselves, instead, under tribal law, not unlike Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan and other Middle Eastern countries.

    Our Founding Fathers entrusted us with the right to bear arms. But this right was not intended to turn us into a cannibalistic society that eats its own.

    The United States was built on the backs and with the blood of Native Americans, Hispanics, Asian Americans, African Americans and the fair-skinned cultures of Europe. All were guaranteed the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

    If you don't like what's happening in our country, have the courage to lay down the gun, pick up the pen, write your elected officials, speak to your neighbors, children and enemies. Study the real story behind the sensationalist rallies and scare tactics. And be glad you have the right to cast a vote.

    That's the appropriate way to fight for this nation -- a place of unusual and valuable freedom higher than might makes right.
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    hmmm....not sure much of a debate/discussion can happen from here that won't deviate from the forum rules regarding politics.

    I don't know the writer....don't know if the event really happened. However, most 2A supporters I know, know how important the image of a supporter of the 2A looks like in the press. So far, it looks like the writer's "friend" fits the press' and liberals definition of 2A supporters: white, racist, Anti-Obama....I think the writer is as much a supporter of the 2A as Schumer, Pelosi, and the like.

    Wolf in sheep clothing? Agenda?
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    I couldn't agree more with you SIGguy. Well said.
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    I suspect that it's a blatant attempt to cast all pro-RKBA in a bad light.

    I expect we will see a bunch of this sort of stereotyping, between now and the elections.

    The antis have lost ground in legislative bodies all around the country, the current Fed administration has disappointed them, so far.

    They are looking for anything to hook their banner onto.
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    Apparently the writer does not realize that our founding fathers did pick up there pens and eventually did rebel attacking the government that was over them. literally the difference between our founding fathers and traitors is who the winner was. our country was started by attacking those who governed us.

    I certainly do not think that now is the time to bring an armed rebellion against our government. But if the government turned into WWII Germany government then i would say that it is most certainly time to bring an armed resistance to the government. and between then and now people would at different times agree as to when it was time to bring an armed rebellion. Yet others would say that this is America vote them out.

    Not everyone will agree on the timing of certain types of action but to imply that taking up arms is cowardly is insanely short sighted and perhaps implies that the writer thinks that our founding fathers were cowards as they took up arms.

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    WE still have some boxes left before that one. There's a box in November, ballot box, and likely another in use soon, jury box. I agree with him that you should vote and get involved first. What I think he is missing is that some of the folks do not listen to what we have to say. They are running their own agenda against the will of lots of their constituents. And they wonder where the outrage is coming from, sheesh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveH View Post
    The writer having friend with whom he usually has rounds of talks about current events but who doesn't realize that the writer is black and a Democrat is about as creditable as the writer being a Second Amendment supporter. What's suggested/implied is a picture of gun owners that fits the RT agenda.
    I agree... this seems to be a "pretend" conversation, pulled from the same ether-land where anti's routinely pull the, "There'll be blood in the streets and shoot-outs over fender-benders" scenario they usually posit when less-stringent carry laws are passed.
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    "Gore, of Bland County, is a Vietnam era veteran and Second Amendment supporter."

    Is it just me, or does this type of disclaimer at the begining of any article just warn you to heighten the scepticism and prepare for an offensive attack on our rights?

    If they are truly supporters of the 2A as they claim, that would show in the writing, and the disclaimer would be as unnecessary as it is worthless.

    I also like how he throws in the stuff about I support hunting... blah blah blah, as if that is further proof that they support the 2A. It has nothing to do with hunting and everything to do with our Right to defend ourselves and our country, wether that be from criminals, invaders, or our own oppressive government that has usurped too much power. Pointing out how they support hunting is just further indicating how much they don't understand the real meaning and purpose of the 2A.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigStick View Post
    "Gore, of Bland County, is a Vietnam era veteran and Second Amendment supporter."

    Is it just me, or does this type of disclaimer at the begining of any article just warn you to heighten the scepticism and prepare for an offensive attack on our rights?

    If they are truly supporters of the 2A as they claim, that would show in the writing, and the disclaimer would be as unnecessary as it is worthless.

    I also like how he throws in the stuff about I support hunting... blah blah blah, as if that is further proof that they support the 2A. It has nothing to do with hunting and everything to do with our Right to defend ourselves and our country, wether that be from criminals, invaders, or our own oppressive government that has usurped too much power. Pointing out how they support hunting is just further indicating how much they don't understand the real meaning and purpose of the 2A.
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