You need to check out HR 45!!!

You need to check out HR 45!!!

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    You need to check out HR 45!!!

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    Read the rest of the Snopes article and you will see that is says:

    "(NOTE: We've downgraded this item's status to "Partly True" because even though the referenced bill is real and is technically still before Congress, as noted at the end this article there is virtually no chance it will ever be voted upon.)"
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    The author of that bill is former black panther member Bobby Rush. Rush dusts off this bill and submits it every year. This is first time it has been called the Blair Holt bill.

    The bill has no co-sponsors and it will go nowhere. No one in the US house wants anything to do with this bill.

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    Not only that but look how many times this has already been posted
    Yep, this one has very long legs. I debunk it every chance I get. It is not unusual to be called a liar, a liberal and a non-patriot for my efforts.

    About twice a week i get e-mails warning me of the imminent passage of HR 45. Some guys have told me that HR 45 has been passed by the US house and senate and is sitting on Obama's desk. At least one guy a week tells me about the dangers of this awful bill that is backed by every Democrat in congress.

    This trash and more trash like it is being spread by wannabee "gun rights" organizations, political shills, gunshow promoters, gunshop employees/owners and the ammo sales outfits. They are depending on distortions, innuendos and outright lies to keep gun and ammo prices high.

    This kind of stuff has the effect of distracting us from the real threats to our Second Amendment rights.

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    Seriously run a search...First.

    The top of the Snopes page states February 2009.
    That is fourteen moths ago. You don't seriously think that nobody among us would have known of and caught this by now...To post prior?

    It's old news that is way dead and has been dead for some time now.
    Blair Holt never made it out of committee.

    Aside from Snopes your second thoght should have been to hit 'SEARCH' here or to run a search HERE before posting.

    The bill was introduced by one wingnut among 540 others with zero co-sponsors and as per the current GovTrack status it never made it beyond introduction at committee (the first of multiple steps, votes and overall process)...Back in 2009.

    How a Bill Becomes a Law

    Open Congress.org - All Legislation in Congress ~ 111th Session circa 2010

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    I think that whole bill is just HOGWASH!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hiram25 View Post
    I think that whole bill is just HOGWASH!
    As did functionally the entire rest of Congress, all 540 other members who did not pile on to offer their names to openly support it...And who as based on clear result did not aid in it's discussion within committee.

    It's effectively a dead concept/suggestion aka 'bill' same as...

    * H.R. 6257: Assault Weapons Ban Reauthorization Act of 2008
    H.R. 6257 [110th]: Assault Weapons Ban Reauthorization Act of 2008 (GovTrack.us)
    Four co-sponsors...All being republicans (!)

    * H.R. 1022: Assault Weapons Ban and Law Enforcement Protection Act of 2007
    H.R. 1022 [110th]: Assault Weapons Ban and Law Enforcement Protection Act of 2007 (GovTrack.us)
    Sixty seven co-sponsors...All being democrats

    * H.R. 2038: Assault Weapons Ban and Law Enforcement Protection Act of 2003
    H.R. 2038 [108th]: Assault Weapons Ban and Law Enforcement Protection Act of 2003 (GovTrack.us)
    One hundred nd ten plus the representation from PR....All being democrats

    Or any one of these...
    489 items found in the current session of Congress for "firearm".
    Bills Found 32 bills

    Source - http://www.opencongress.org/search/r...rch_comments=1
    Any one of these fools can propose and submit a bill.
    That's just step one.
    Making it stick, getting ti gain traction and become point of discussion to the point of gaining position high enough to garner debate as prior to an actual vote...That is where the rubber meets the road, before it can then progress toward becoming a law.

    This bill failed.

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