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    OP Ed Roanoke Times -- Roanoke Virginia

    They aren't coming for your guns - Roanoke.com

    Monday, May 03, 2010

    They aren't coming for your guns

    David Goode

    Goode, of Bedford, is a adjunct professor of psychology at Central Virginia Community College.


    Let me state at the beginning, I own four guns: two pistols, a .22 rifle that I got for the requisite rite of passage for Southern boys to go squirrel hunting with their father, and my dad's old shotgun, which involved another rite of passage: firing a double-barreled shotgun for the first time as a boy and trying to keep from crying because the recoil hurt my shoulder and the loud bang sounded like a cannon going off in my ear.

    But I wouldn't think of bringing any of these to a political rally. The protesters who brought loaded pistols and other weapons to a rally outside of Washington, D.C., in Arlington, are more in need of Viagra than guns. Did they feel threatened? What was their point?

    I guess the guns were a symbol -- a symbol of freedom, according to them, and they weren't going to give up any more freedoms: "We are done backing down." But as usual with this crowd, they are missing the point.

    Do they really think guns will be outlawed? Republican politicians want them to think that. These so-called conservative politicians wrap themselves in the American flag and the Second Amendment, trying to frighten people into believing this hogwash. "Be vigilant," they warn. "Those weak-kneed liberals want to take your guns." Yes, there are some who would like to see all guns outlawed, but that's about as likely to happen as me winning the lottery.

    Why do these politicians blare this message? It's called misdirection -- a smokescreen issue. If we are sitting at home, lovingly polishing our arsenals and concentrating on our right to bear arms, we won't pay attention to what the politicians are really doing, which is allowing Wall Street and banks and greedy CEOs to rape the economy and then get bailed out when their legal Ponzi schemes fall apart.

    Yes, I'm just as infuriated as these yahoos with guns. But carrying a weapon to a rally isn't going to change anything. It isn't going to scare these greedy Gordon Geckos; it's only going to scare others who also want change, and it will paint all protesters and dissenters as nuts.

    The bought-and-paid-for politicians and the greedy Geckos have got us right where they want us -- fussing and feuding with each other over nonissues and not paying attention to what's really going on.

    These wannabe militia bemoan the loss of "liberties." I ask, why? Why did they allow this to happen, if it did? Why did they give their liberties away? Why did they let them be taken away?

    Because they weren't paying attention. They were sitting at home watching their HD TVs, watching NASCAR races, sports, the faux-reality shows and mindless sitcoms. The Gecko strategy is simple: Keep them fat and happy. Well, we're fat all right; obese is more like it. And we're happy, or rather we think we are happy. We're mesmerized, we're Novacained. Numb to what's really happening.
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    This guy seems to be the one missing the point! And regardless of if they were making a point or not, what is wrong with carrying guns with you?

    "Yes, there are some who would like to see all guns outlawed, but that's about as likely to happen as me winning the lottery."

    Really?!?! You know people win the lottery every day! I think he needs to pick a new analogy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigStick View Post
    "Yes, there are some who would like to see all guns outlawed, but that's about as likely to happen as me winning the lottery."

    Really?!?! You know people win the lottery every day! I think he needs to pick a new analogy.
    Notice he was talking about himself, isolating himself as the sole winner of said lottery drawing versus the competition of several million people for the same draw. If he doesn't play he can't win, since you have to play to have a chance at winning. Furthermore, the odds of winning a lottery are not in the competitor's favor, they favor the "house".

    I think his analogy is fine, but that's just me.
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    If he's offended by Ponzi schemes, he should be out advocating for the abolition of social security, not the 2nd Amendment. And if he REALLY feels guns should be outlawed, why does he still own four?

    Likely his thought process is really something like this: "I am a hyper-intelligent, sensitive, caring individual who is completely trustworthy and responsible. The redneck idiot conservatives around me can't be trusted with guns and such things. We must prevent them from doing harm to themselves, others, and the environment by restricting their freedoms for society's good. However, since we are the intelligentsia and can be trusted with such freedoms, we may still enjoy them."

    Sound about right?

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    Likely his thought process is really something like this: "I am a hyper-intelligent, sensitive, caring individual who is completely trustworthy and responsible. The redneck idiot conservatives around me can't be trusted with guns and such things. We must prevent them from doing harm to themselves, others, and the environment by restricting their freedoms for society's good. However, since we are the intelligentsia and can be trusted with such freedoms, we may still enjoy them."
    Could not have said it better...

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    "The bought-and-paid-for politicians and the greedy Geckos have got us right where they want us -- fussing and feuding with each other over nonissues and not paying attention to what's really going on."

    This statement from the article is right on.

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    Our Second Amendment rights excepted, it is all about feel good stuff like flag burning, gays, the pledge of allegiance and the Ten Commandments. The TV and rasio shills are keeping the country polarized with their constant harping on these non-issues.

    In 1980 Lee Atwater re-defined "conservatism." "Conservatism" no longer meant fiscal conservatism. It meant a plethora of feel good stuff. Meanwhile, the US national debt went from less than one trillion dollars in 1980 to over 12 trillion dollars today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Holger View Post
    If he's offended by Ponzi schemes, he should be out advocating for the abolition of social security, not the 2nd Amendment. And if he REALLY feels guns should be outlawed, why does he still own four?

    really, where is he advocating abolition of the 2nd amendment? From all I can see, he is saying that concern over its abolition is not something we should be worried about and that carrying them to rallies is a bad idea and just makes gun owners look nuts. A point I agree on. Both sides of the isle are constantly engaged in fear mongering to try to win themselves votes. The rights pandering to people’s fears and hate of gun control, non Christians, abortion and taxes. And the Lefts markets to the fear and hate of environmental destruction, racism, bigotry, and big business. The unfortunate reality is that fear and smoke screens are ingrained political tools that people react to.

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    Lightbulb It's "to keep and bear arms"

    Quote Originally Posted by AlexHassin View Post
    really, where is he advocating abolition of the 2nd amendment?
    Like a lot of the writers of editorials, Op Eds, LTE, etc that start with "I (some member of my family) own(s) guns" or "I support 2A" he appears to ignore the "and bear" part of

    the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.
    and/or has a strange idea of the meaning of "shall not be infringed."

    What's really strange is the number of folk who actually believe that they are Pro-RKBA that have the same fuzzy construct of 2A.
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    Bear as in bear at a protest? so just because someone does not believe that it was a good idea to have rifles over your shoulder at a protest they are anti second amendment? Honestly the worlds not that black and white. The fact in the writers eyes seems to be that there are bigger concerns being lost in the debate about firearms and other “non issues”. Perhaps he believes there should be more laws concerning firearms maybe not, he does not say in this piece.

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    I do not denigrate or hate or ridicule these supposed alleged uncool militia fools; or the CCW people; or the SWAT and Spec Ops wannabes; or the target shooters or competitors; or the Cowboys and Cowgirls; or the Civil War or other reenactors; or the NRA gun lovers or our other related or distant sisters or brothers, including Tea Party people and those border-control folks, who seem to also be old-media jokes. I am too lazy to run and stalk and map read and march and camp out and practice military stuff in the woods, although it would, without a doubt, do me some good. Like Lame Brain McCain, it gives me pain when I see people trying to appease and please the media people who denigrate them and hate them, for owning and having fun with guns.

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