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    Fire Mission -- Dan Casey's Blog Roanoke Times.

    As the following are being played by the ANTI -Gun Dan Casey in the ANTI-gun RT, as one of the early skirmishes for the January 1011 legislative session, I am posting this here. If it should be elsewhere, please move it.

    Please join in this thread on Dans blog.

    Check out :
    http://blogs.roanoke.com/dancasey/20...ter-consuming/


    Pistol-firing pizza joint patron carried concealed after consuming

    Was it a case of self defense?

    No, more like self-injury and self embarrasment.

    Police in Lynchburg have charged a Virginia concealed handgun permit hold with
    three misdemeanors after she shot himself in a pizza restaurant with a handgun
    that was hidden in his pants front pocket.

    Police said they believed Wayne Meredith Latham, 56, of Forest, had been
    consuming alcohol.

    The comments on the story, in The (Lynchburg) News & Advance, are hysterical.

    Here's the best one:

    "Clearly, this was an act of self-defense. His leg was out of control and had
    to be stopped at any cost. Why oh why can't the liberals see that we'd all be
    safer from our limbs if we'd just take some responsibility for our own safety,
    and carry firearms?"

    In restaurants the serve alcohol and after drinking, the writer forget to add.
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    My comments so far:

    "What happened to the Obama gun ban"
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    Dan, you have been around the game long enough to know reality.

    What's happened?

    Political reality! Realpolitik - (from German, for real = actual + Politik =
    politics) - politics based on practical and material factors rather than on
    theoretical or ethical objectives:

    1) Count the votes and don't set yourself up. Win not lose big. Your image as
    a strong leader would be tarnished by tilting wind-mills. Put principle before
    expediency? NO way! Veto the credit card bill because of NPS carry? That
    equals Wind-mill tilter equals a loser.

    Or.

    2) Party before principle. Count your party's members who at risk in the next
    election for whom a recorded vote on any issue would weaken their chances of
    winning/returning to support you and your party. Then work to keep them around
    by dodging issues/votes that would hurt you and the party by hurting them.
    BTW - that "not hurting" includes protection your individual and your party's
    source of donations from PACs, individuals, etc

    Or 1 + 2

    BTW - this is not just a D thing. D, R, I, L, G, etc all work hard to win
    elections - not to represent you.

    The pol's loyalty is first to him/herself getting elected/reelected, Then
    second to helping his/her party (or switching parties if that helps
    him/herself getting elected/reelected and /or get a better committee
    assignment) and then (once all those chips have been played) looking for ways
    to represent you (the voter) that best helps him/herself getting
    elected/reelected.

    BTW - check out my post # 4 "Sign of the times?.." at
    http://blogs.roanoke.com/dancasey/20...read/#comments

    And read the other's comments that others pols do it.

    IMHO all pols are like a babies' diapers - full of stuff and should be changed
    frequently.

    Comment by DaveH - September 13, 2010 @ 2:48 pm
    and

    As someone already introduced the 81 year old George Leroy Baker III being
    kicked to death as folk watched and the KT shooting to an anti gun thread,,
    I'll join in.

    IMHO, it was too bad, the law-abiding 81 year old Mr. Baker wasn't armed as he
    could have been - under Virginia law. It is too bad that the witnesses dining
    at the nearby Hash House, who saw the teen kick Baker in the face after he'd
    been knocked down were not armed and did not intervene. And what about the
    two others who told police they saw Davis run up to Mr. Baker and heard what
    sounded like someone being hit? Why didn't they do anything?

    Clearly, 911 failed - to save his life. However, 911 succeeded in what it is
    designed to do. It got the police there in time to deal with the aftermath of
    crime that had been committed.

    As for post # 16. I believe I read that it was a total of his wife and five
    other people who were shot dead by a gunman before he shot himself. Note if
    these folk ages 28, 30, 31, 40, and 54 had clean records, it is too bad all
    theses folk should have been armed to protect them selves.

    The paper said:

    hostile temper was apparently escalating over the past few months, so much so
    that it forced his landlord to start eviction proceedings. "He was
    unpredictable," said landlord Ray Rastegar. "Little things would set him off."
    People need to start taking responsibility for protecting themselves and their
    loved ones.

    And as for 911 protecting you, earlier reports said that the KT LEOs did not
    arrive for over a hour after the first call.

    Comment by DaveH - September 13, 2010 @ 3:54 pm
    and

    Re:# 21
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    Dan, Dan, Dan

    You know better.

    Obama signed legislation opening up national parks to CC permit holders
    because it was attached to a bill he wanted - baaaddddly.

    Either way he was trapped.

    1) Sign the Bill and let the NPS Carry become law [Not just CC, BTW] in order
    to get that Credit Card Reform that he and his party had worked so hard for
    and made so many promises about also become law - with the same signature.

    2) Veto the Bill and be branded as unable to deliver on promises, an
    ineffective leader of his party, etc.

    See my post at # 20 He put The Party over Principle in a game of real life
    Realpolitik.

    Signing that bill had nothing to do with his stance on RKBA. It was all about
    Credit Card reform and Realpolitik.

    Welcome to life in the real world. It's a game of Keepsies not little boy
    Funsies.

    Comment by DaveH - September 13, 2010 @ 7:33 pm
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    I'm just one root in a grassroots organization. No one should assume that I speak for the VCDL.

    I am neither an attorney-at-law nor I do play one on television or on the internet. No one should assumes my opinion is legal advice.

    Veni, Vidi, Velcro


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    Dan's an idiot. He will continue to post every incident in the WORLD in which a person with a concealed carry permit does something either illegal or stupid and ignore the data on how low a percentage this is relative to the self-defense uses. One of the main reasons he continues to post so many anti-gun threads is the debates between the pros and antis drives his blog post count up.
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    My latest post submitted

    So Dan,

    Would you also say, [to paraphrase you] “The Jeffrey Scott Dupree/Tracie Nininger case proves that there is at least one driver’s permit holder who wanted to drink in a bar while concealing his/her keys. That’s one too many.

    Idiots like this shouldn’t have driver’s permits.”

    I’d agree!

    Go for better restriction where the really is blood in the streets — blood of innocent people.

    If you are so incensed about one scofflaw who only hurt himself, where is your anguish about those that put the blood on the street far more frequently than once in 10 weeks.

    I, too am glad the idiot didn’t seriously injure (or kill) someone — unlike the real problem with carrying keys in restaurants that serve alcohol and who fill our papers with mayhem nealy daily.

    How many people were hurt or killed thought the State by carrying keys in restaurants that serve alcohol in that same 10 weeks?

    Comment by DaveH — September 14, 2010 @ 10:11 am
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    I'm just one root in a grassroots organization. No one should assume that I speak for the VCDL.

    I am neither an attorney-at-law nor I do play one on television or on the internet. No one should assumes my opinion is legal advice.

    Veni, Vidi, Velcro

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    Quote Originally Posted by BugDude View Post
    One of the main reasons he continues to post so many anti-gun threads is the debates between the pros and antis drives his blog post count up.
    Blog count = One reason, yes.

    However, it is also a rally point for the antis. And IMHO we need to keep them from building too much of head of steam, thinking that their points are irrefutable and patting each other on the back about how smart/right they are.
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    I'm just one root in a grassroots organization. No one should assume that I speak for the VCDL.

    I am neither an attorney-at-law nor I do play one on television or on the internet. No one should assumes my opinion is legal advice.

    Veni, Vidi, Velcro

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