A Looming Threat: A Major U.S. Vulnerability.

A Looming Threat: A Major U.S. Vulnerability.

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    A Looming Threat: A Major U.S. Vulnerability.

    Here comes the latest attempt to impose a so-called "assault weapon" ban. Senator Frank Lautenberg, along with his willing accomplices in the Brady Campaign (AKA: Handgun Control), has released a "study" entitled "Firearms, Explosives and terrorists: A Looming Threat: A Major U.S. Vulnerability."

    The recent Heller and McDonald Supreme Court rulings, confirmed our Second Amendment rights, but because of the necessary narrow focus, left the door open for restrictions on our rights. We knew this fight was coming and here it is.

    The NRA, SAF, GOA, JPFO, etc needs your help. If not already a member of one or more of the gun rights groups, please join. We need your help. These law suits to protect our rights are expensive.

    By the way, if Harry Reid looses his Senate seat on Tuesday, and IF the Democrats keep the Senate majority, Frank Lautenberg will be the Senate Majority Leader, able to call the shots in regards to legislation.

    Follow this link to the Brady Campaign web page, which has a link to the Senator’s “report.”

    http://www.handguncontrol.org/studies/view/216/

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    Politicians, both Democrat and Republican have done more damage to the moral fiber of this country in the past 30 years than firearms, explosives, or terrorists ever could.

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    It's funny. Some of the very first words on the front page of that diatribe (euphemism: report) talk about the Mumbai and Lahore attacks. Imagine, if a heavily-armed populace were what a dozen "terrorists" faced when attempting to disrupt urban centers, just how successful would such attacks have been? Invariably, example after example is trundled out for surface examination as if it were "proof" of anything. And yet, it's simply example after example of Gun-Free Zones and the disastrous effects they can have. When sheep get penned up in an urban center and crowed downtown buildings and streets, it doesn't take many well-armed people to destroy scores or hundreds of people who are themselves unarmed.

    Part of the real, practical solution to what they're railing about in that "report" is: arming the citizens to the teeth, relatively unrestricted, allowing carry throughout the society. As it stands now, in each of the examples in that essay, only the government "VIP's" are the ones daring to claim they have the right to personal protection via weapons, yet in each case they pointedly deny that same right to the citizens of their own countries.

    Arm the people. Get the hell out of the way. And THEN see how effective these "terrorist" escapades end up being. My guess is that the statistics will begin to show a dramatic swing toward the Israeli level of effectiveness, in which murderous idiots who dare raise their heads above ground don't last long, whether attempting to crash through barricades or attempting to harm innocents on the street one by one.

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    Are they really trying to say that Mumbai wouldn't have happened if the gun show "loophole" didn't exist? What a crock of a report.

    The only way to solve this is to arm the citizens. Imagine if every hotel room in Mumbai had been defended with a gun.

    Desperate morons. Why do they keep harping on sales at gun shows (private sales only BTW) when there is no evidence that this is a problem that needs to be addressed? Blah, blah, blah. What is the problem you are trying to solve!!?! Evidence please!

    Let me tell you what the effect would be on international terrorism if no guns were sold at gun shows at all....none! Sheesh.
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    I am interested in reading the "report" but I refuse to go to their website to give them additional traffic. Knowing the way they read and distort statistics, they would probably then count me as a "supporter" and continue to brag about how many people they have in their organization.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ccw9mm View Post
    It's funny. Some of the very first words on the front page of that diatribe (euphemism: report) talk about the Mumbai and Lahore attacks. Imagine, if a heavily-armed populace were what a dozen "terrorists" faced when attempting to disrupt urban centers, just how successful would such attacks have been? Invariably, example after example is trundled out for surface examination as if it were "proof" of anything. And yet, it's simply example after example of Gun-Free Zones and the disastrous effects they can have. When sheep get penned up in an urban center and crowed downtown buildings and streets, it doesn't take many well-armed people to destroy scores or hundreds of people who are themselves unarmed.

    Part of the real, practical solution to what they're railing about in that "report" is: arming the citizens to the teeth, relatively unrestricted, allowing carry throughout the society. As it stands now, in each of the examples in that essay, only the government "VIP's" are the ones daring to claim they have the right to personal protection via weapons, yet in each case they pointedly deny that same right to the citizens of their own countries.

    Arm the people. Get the hell out of the way. And THEN see how effective these "terrorist" escapades end up being. My guess is that the statistics will begin to show a dramatic swing toward the Israeli level of effectiveness, in which murderous idiots who dare raise their heads above ground don't last long, whether attempting to crash through barricades or attempting to harm innocents on the street one by one.

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    The same guns that can be used on murders and terrorists can also be used on a government who disregards the will of the people or tramples the countries founding documents in the belief that their wisdom is greater than the founders, which most governments inherently believe. Privately owned weapons are a perpetual thorn in the side of government.
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    We wouldn't be having this conversation if the Gov't shutdown the borders, enforced immigration laws and did a background check on every person who enters this country.

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