he said she said...very messy
This is a discussion on Ward Bird - Guilty of "Criminal Threatening" - 3 to 6 years in the pokey within the The Second Amendment & Gun Legislation Discussion forums, part of the Related Topics category; Don't know much about this, but thought it was interesting... http://freewardbird.org/ Link to the court case: http://www.leagle.com/xmlResult.aspx...WAR3-2007-CURR It’s a long story, but in the short– ...
Don't know much about this, but thought it was interesting...
Link to the court case:
http://www.leagle.com/xmlResult.aspx...WAR3-2007-CURRhttp://www.wmur.com/news/25839677/detail.htmlIt’s a long story, but in the short– a woman trespassed on Ward’s property and he asked her several times to leave, but she refused. She claimed that Ward came out of his house with a gun, ran down his porch steps pointing it at her. At the time, Ward had only been home 9 days since emergency surgery for a ruptured abdominal aorta. Not only was he in no condition to do what she claims he did, he has always maintained that he never pointed or gestured towards her with the gun. Now he is doing 3 to 6 years in state prison because it was her word against his.
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he said she said...very messy
Birds' niece called and told him that the woman might get onto his property. Ward Bird is a total blithering idiot but he does not deserve 3-6 years in prison.
Typical mindset of the liberal northeast. If it has anything to do with a gun he/she is guilty send them to the pokey with maximum sentence.
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IF the facts are as presented then he went over the line. Still the punishment seems a bit harsh. FWIW he had the opportunity to plead to a misdemeanor.
Nine days post op it seems to me he could have been physically capable of some type of activity, walking if not running.
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Ward bird should not be incarcerated, plain and simple. This woman who entered his property has a violent history, has been jailed multiple time, and is a known "shitty" as we call em around here. Granted I dont live in a rural area where this happened but i have been around there and people have their property clearly marked. This woman has lied. I strongly think that a middle aged man who has handled weapons for a lifetime, was well liked by the Police Chief, the School board members (superintendent, principle) and other town and area political figures would have a handle on when the right time to pull is. The guy was a Boy Scout leader too! This guy is not in the wrong. this woman is LYING. I would put a years salary on it.
This is one of those things I hate about our court system. It still relies on "he said she said". People LIE. It's that simple. EVERYONE should be INNOCENT until PROVEN guilty. Proven != one person said they did it. PROVE to me with the sciences that he did it, and I'll quietly go away. I don't care if you know he's a murdering, dope dealing SOB. Don't have the proof(ie video surveillance, electronic records, Evidence collected at the scene that all adds up) then CUT HIM LOOSE! Just someone saying someone pointed a gun at them is NOT sufficient proof to me that someone committed said crime.
Sorry, but I have lost almost all faith in my fellow man. I trust no one until they prove to me otherwise.
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I only know what I've read in the media about this. My short opinion........he made her angry, she saw a gun embellished the encounter and called the police first
Had Mr Bird kept his weapon concealed it would have been a different story. She was apparently able to verbalize an adequate description of his weapon (which would not help Mr Birds case), and without any other witnesses to refute her story, he was apparently sunk.
I don't know anything about what Mr Bird actually did, or NH gun laws or the pulse there, but too bad that a man can't be somewhat cautious and pro-active about defending his home turf. From my point, a lone woman at the outside of my house, could very well be a set-up with her hidden male companion nearby waiting to flank me by surprise.
Here's the latest news, it looks like he got off with a couple of months sentencing, but can no longer own guns. This whole incidence is a testimony in being aware of how you might be perceived by the general public, if handled wrong, it could come back to bite you in the backside.
Helpful hints on pushing back and strengthening the 2A:
http://freewardbird.org/Some very "key" information there.... did the jury not understand "reasonable doubt" ???Originally Posted by Ward's daughter's comments
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