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    JOHN GLENN SAID

    Things that make you think a little:
    There were 39 combat related killings in Iraq in January. In the fair city
    of Detroit there were 35 murders in the month of January. That's just one American city, about as deadly as the entire war-torn country of Iraq.
    When some claim that President Bush shouldn't have started this war, state
    the following a. FDR led us into World War II. b. Germany never attacked us;
    Japan did. >From 1941-1945, 450,000 lives were lost ...
    an average of 112,500 per year. c. Truman finished that war and started one
    in Korea. North Korea never attacked us.. >From 1950-1953, 55,000 lives were
    lost ...an average of 18,334 per year. d John F. Kennedy started the Vietnam
    conflict in 1962. Vietnam never attacked us.e. Johnson turned Vietnam into a
    quagmire. >From 1965-1975, 58,000 lives were lost .. an average of 5,800 per
    year. f. Clinton went to war in Bosnia without UN or French consent.Bosnia
    never attacked us. He was offered Osama bin Laden's head on a platter three
    times by Sudan and did nothing. Osama has attacked us on
    multiple occasions. g. In the years since terrorists attacked us , President
    Bush has liberated two countries, crushed the Taliban, crippled al-Qaida,
    put nuclear inspectors in Libya, Iran, and, North
    Korea without firing a shot, and captured a terrorist who slaughtered
    300,000 of his own people.
    The Democrats are complaining about how long the war is taking. But It took
    less time to take Iraq than it took Janet Reno to take the Branch Davidian
    compound. That was a 51-day operation..
    We've been looking for evidence for chemical weapons in Iraq for less time
    than it took Hillary Clinton to find the Rose Law Firm billing
    records.It took less time for the 3rd Infantry Division and the
    Marines to destroy the Medina Republican Guard than it took Ted Kennedy to
    call the police after his Oldsmobile sank at
    Chappaquiddick. It took less time to take Iraq than it took to count the
    votes in Florida!!!!
    Our Commander-In-Chief is doing a GREAT JOB! The Military morale is high!
    The biased media hopes we are too ignorant to realize the facts
    But Wait There's more!
    JOHN GLENN (ON THE SENATE FLOOR)Mon, 26 Jan 2004 11:13
    Some people still don't understand why military personnel do what they do
    for a living. This exchange between Senators John Glenn and Senator Howard
    Metzenbaum is worth reading. Not only is it a pretty impressive impromptu
    speech, but it's also a good example of one
    man's explanation of why men and women in the armed services do what they do
    for a living.This IS a typical, though sad, example of what some who have
    never served think of the military.
    Senator Metzenbaum (speaking to Senator Glenn): "How can you run for Senate
    when you've never held a real job?"
    Senator Glenn (D-Ohio): "I served 23 years in the United States Marine
    Corps. I served through two wars. I flew 149 missions.My plane was hit by
    anti-aircraft fire on 12 different occasions. I was in the space program. It
    wasn't my checkbook, Howard; it was my life on the line. It was not a
    nine-to-five job, where I took time off to take the daily cash receipts to
    the bank." "I ask you to go with me ... as I went the other day... to a
    veteran's hospital and look those men ...with their mangled bodies . in the
    eye, and tell THEM they didn't hold a job! You go with me to the Space
    Program at NASA and go, as I have gone, to the widows and Orphans of Ed
    White, Gus Grissom and Roger Chaffee...and you look those kids in the eye
    and tell them
    that their DADS didn't hold a job. You go with me on Memorial Day and you
    stand in Arlington National Cemetery, where I have more
    friends buried than I'd like to remember, and you
    watch those waving flags.You stand there, and you think about this nation,
    and you tell ME that those people didn't have a job?
    What about you?"For those who don't remember ..During W.W.II, Howard
    Metzenbaum was an attorney representing the Communist
    Party in the USA. Now he's a Senator! If you can read this, thank a teacher.
    If you are reading it in English thank a
    Veteran. It might not be a bad idea to keep this circulating

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    This one has been aorund before, only part of the quote is actually from Glenn here is the same thing but a bit easer to read

    Things that make you think a little:
    There were 39 combat related killings in Iraq in January. In the fair city of Detroit there were 35 murders in the month of January. That's just one American city, about as deadly as the entire war-torn country of Iraq. When some claim that President Bush shouldn't have started this war, state the following;



    FDR led us into World War II. b. Germany never attacked us; Japan did. >From 1941-1945, 450,000 lives were lost ... an average of 112,500 per year.



    Truman finished that war and started one in Korea. North Korea never attacked us.. >From 1950-1953, 55,000 lives were lost ...an average of 18,334 per year.



    John F. Kennedy started the Vietnam conflict in 1962. Vietnam never attacked us. Johnson turned Vietnam into a quagmire. >From 1965-1975, 58,000 lives were lost... an average of 5,800 per year.



    Clinton went to war in Bosnia without UN or French consent. Bosnia never attacked us. He was offered Osama bin Laden's head on a platter three times by Sudan and did nothing. Osama has attacked us on multiple occasions.



    In the years since terrorists attacked us , President Bush has liberated two countries, crushed the Taliban, crippled al-Qaeda, put nuclear inspectors in Libya, Iran, and, North Korea without firing a shot, and captured a terrorist who slaughtered 300,000 of his own people.



    The Democrats are complaining about how long the war is taking. But It took less time to take Iraq than it took Janet Reno to take the Branch Dravidian
    compound. That was a 51-day operation…



    We've been looking for evidence for chemical weapons in Iraq for less time than it took Hillary Clinton to find the Rose Law Firm billing records.



    It took less time for the 3rd Infantry Division and the Marines to destroy the Medina Republican Guard than it took Ted Kennedy to call the police after his Oldsmobile sank at Chappaquiddick.



    It took less time to take Iraq than it took to count the votes in Florida!!!!


    Our Commander-In-Chief is doing a GREAT JOB! The Military morale is high!


    The biased media hopes we are too ignorant to realize the facts But Wait There's more!


    JOHN GLENN (ON THE SENATE FLOOR)Mon, 26 Jan 2004 11:13
    Some people still don't understand why military personnel do what they do for a living. This exchange between Senators John Glenn and Senator Howard
    Metzenbaum is worth reading. Not only is it a pretty impressive impromptu speech, but it's also a good example of one man's explanation of why men and women in the armed services do what they do for a living. This IS a typical, though sad, example of what some who have never served think of the military.


    Senator Metzenbaum (speaking to Senator Glenn): "How can you run for Senate when you've never held a real job?"


    Senator Glenn (D-Ohio): "I served 23 years in the United States Marine Corps. I served through two wars. I flew 149 missions. My plane was hit by anti-aircraft fire on 12 different occasions. I was in the space program. It wasn't my checkbook, Howard; it was my life on the line. It was not a nine-to-five job, where I took time off to take the daily cash receipts to the bank." "I ask you to go with me ... as I went the other day... to a veteran's hospital and look those men ...with their mangled bodies in the eye, and tell THEM they didn't hold a job! You go with me to the Space Program at NASA and go, as I have gone, to the widows and Orphans of Ed White, Gus Grissom and Roger Chaffee...and you look those kids in the eye and tell them that their DADS didn't hold a job. You go with me on Memorial Day and you stand in Arlington National Cemetery, where I have more friends buried than I'd like to remember, and you watch those waving flags. You stand there, and you think about this nation, and you tell ME that those people didn't have a job?



    What about you? "For those who don't remember... During W.W.II, Howard Metzenbaum was an attorney representing the Communist Party in the USA. Now he's a Senator!
    "The sword dose not cause the murder, and the maker of the sword dose not bear sin" Rabbi Solomon ben Isaac 11th century

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    Senator Glenn is right.

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    John Glenn didn't say anything like this to Howard Metzenbaum on the Senate floor. Metzenbaum wasn't even in the senate by the time Glenn arrived, because Glenn defeated him in the Democratic primary!

    An exchange between the two candidates did take place over a period of days during the 1974 Ohio primary election.
    The following, from Urbanlegends.about.com:

    Metzenbaum, whose strategy throughout the campaign included questioning Glenn's civilian leadership experience, apparently remarked during a speech that the career Marine and former astronaut had "never met a payroll," or words to that effect. Somehow this morphed into "never held a job" in the press coverage of the campaign (and continues to be reported that way to this day), and Glenn took the straw man and ran with it in a May 3, 1974 debate with Metzenbaum at the Cleveland City Club.

    Here, according to political columnist Mark Shields, is what Glenn actually said in that debate (other accounts differ only slightly):

    I served 23 years in the United States Marine Corps. I was through two wars. I flew 149 missions. My plane was hit by anti-aircraft fire on 12 different occasions.

    I was in the space program. It wasn't my checkbook. It was my life that was on the line. This was not a 9-to-5 job where I took time off to take the daily cash receipts to the bank.

    I ask you to go with me . . . as I went the other day to a Veterans Hospital and look those men with their mangled bodies in the eye and tell them they didn't hold a job. You go with me to any Gold Star mother, and you look her in the eye and tell her that her son did not hold a job.

    You go with me to the space program, and you go as I have gone to the widows and the orphans of Ed White and Gus Grissom and Roger Chaffee, and you look those kids in the eye and tell them that their dad didn't hold a job.

    You go with me on Memorial Day coming up, and you stand in Arlington National Cemetery - where I have more friends than I like to remember - and you watch those waving flags, and you stand there, and you think about this nation, and you tell me that those people didn't have a job.

    I tell you, Howard Metzenbaum, you should be on your knees every day of your life thanking God that there were some men - some men - who held a job. And they required a dedication to purpose and a love of country and a dedication to duty that was more important than life itself. And their self-sacrifice is what has made this country possible.... I have held a job, Howard.

    Senator Glenn never accused Howard Metzenbaum of working for the Communist Party. That's a good thing, because there is NO evidence that he did.

    Senator Glenn never chastised Democrats for not supporting President Bush. Those comments were added in 2004 to the Internet chain-letter version. John Glenn was a staunch Democrat and the first person ever elected to 4 U.S. Senate terms in the state of Ohio.

    Info also found here: http://www.snopes.com/politics/quotes/glenn.asp
    Cheers,
    Rod
    "We're paratroopers. We're supposed to be surrounded!" Dick Winters

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